[Bioconversion] Was" Even the Air Force" , Now GH effect OFF TOPIC
Carefreeland at aol.com
Carefreeland at aol.com
Thu Jun 21 01:17:42 EDT 2007
In a message dated 6/19/07 9:49:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dbneeley at gmail.com writes:
DD : Dan Dimiduk comments.
>
> By positing those who are skeptics as "deniers" you immediately
> emotionalize the issue.
DD Lets look at the facts, just the facts. Then lets use instincts not
emotions to analyze those facts. Always works for me. By the way? Where are your
investments? Who pays your paycheck? Mother nature pays mine, always has.
Started my landscape business in 1980 at age 19 to corner the supply of raw urban
Biomass for experiments.
>
> An extremely good resource is the Cambridge Conference Network
> newsletter, which contains articles and commentary on all sides of the
> issue.
>
> One problem in the discussion is that there are actually very few
> scientists actually qualified to discuss climate change. For example,
> there are only about 80 individuals in the U.S. (and a similar number
> elsewhere worldwide) who actually have Ph.D. degrees in climatology.
> Quite a few of these, in fact, are people much more skeptical than you
> may imagine.
DD Who cares about qualifications? I have based my long range business
decisions upon my keen observations of what was happening around mein 3-D. When the
weather service ignored my able predictions of tornados because I had no
degree, it told me something. It is more important to most educated types to get
credit for something than to save lives. I use my info to help or save my
friends and to hell with anyone who doesn't care to listen. I don't need someone's
opinion when my friend needs mouth to mouth.
>
> "Global Warming" is presently very much in the status of a
> religion--we are asked to accept much by faith that cannot be
> conclusively proven, and even that subject to other factors that may
> in fact describe the problem far better.
DD Nope, I started studying climatology after running out of room to learn
studying severe storms. I wanted the bigger picture! Now I work to change the
weather- and do. Most of the people I know were personally affected by the
great Xenia, Tornado of 1974. The in the words of Dr. Fajita " a possible F-6",
the most powerful tornado in recorded history. I was personally caught in the
hail storm from it.
DD My first solo trips when I learned to drive, included chasing every severe
storm that crossed my path, from one end of the country to the other. The
first climatology books I studied in the late 1970's were all all based on
nothing but pure historic data gathered from every possible resource.
>
> I have found no links between carbon concentrations and warming, for
> example. In fact, rising carbon levels generally come after
> significant warming measurements, not before. The only direct
> correlations that have been found thus far are between sunspot
> activity and warming, from what I can determine.
DD Knock, knock wake up >> yes when organic soil components are warmed it
does release methane and CO2- quickly. Methane is a real culprit. What happens
then, is the water cycle reacts to quench the "fire" with tremendous storms.
Hello!!! I'm a landscaper - don't tell me about my soil. Ever dry a soil test
sample? If you get it hot, forget the carbon measurements.
DD Sunspot activity and volcanos are the obvious things that can change
quickly and intensly enough to temporarily override the water cycle corrections.
The question is, What happens to the heat after it accumulates on the earths
surface? Not, how did it get there? That is only reading the input side, not the
output. Walk outside soaking wet on a clear night, it might clear some things
up, like your stuffy head.
>
> However, intelligent discussion of these issues is very hard to find
> on most fora. Many people simply accept what they are told is
> "scientific consensus" as some sort of holy writ without challenge.
> That, I'm afraid, is not scientific method.
DD Nope, I made my mind up in 1988 during a drought. I was up often at night
watching the weather channel satellite shots and hiking outside at night. You
could really see clearly what the heat transfer mechanisim of the earth was
doing to compensate.
DD And by the way, what do you call scientific method? Pouring chemicals
into test tubes, reading computer screens, or crunching math? Try the ultimate
test- do the experiment outdoors your own body, making a living hourly or not
with the results! I have been a student pilot and an avid deep caver, friends
are mountain climbers, divers, and farmers. I observe all three levels of the
earth as it works. Don't piss me off now with your retoric.
>
> My position is simple: I don't accept at face value many
> unsubstantiated claims--especially the hysterical ones such as Al
> Gore's over the top predictions based upon nothing I can find except
> his own investments in carbon offset brokers. His dire warnings of
> "twenty foot sea level rises" for example far exceed even the most
> pessimistic forecasts of those who are proposing global warming
> catastrophe--by a factor of ten or more, in fact.
>
> David
>
DD My position is simple. It's not about simply the warming- it's about
energising the water cycle which transfers heat from the earth to outer space. When
you have a clear night it is easy for infarred to escape to space. On a foggy
night the temperature becomes stable. For example, do you have any idea what
the latent thermal capacity of frost on the grass can do to a climate model?
DD Who gives a rats ass about Al Gore? I want to know how much snow I'm
going to plow, or when the next Katrina is going to hit. Usually I'm right, way
more than wrong. I was setting up my post Katrina Mississippi forestry work as
Rita was hitting. My sister was waiting out Katrina in Nashville with Disaster
advance medical teams- we knew what was comming. She was on the ground in
Biloxi healing people who saw the eyewall before the National Guard was set up.
DD I spend a lot of time since 1990 in an experimental solar thermal
greenhouse I designed. It is a micro climate model, complete with variable heat
storage and rain on demand. I breathe this knowledge, I don't ask a so called
expert who lives indoors about my outdoor environment. I have been outside when
every weather record has been set day or night since I was old enough to shovel
snow and work a garden. I have nearly a decade of severe storms videotaped,
and over two decades in pictures.
DD Oh yea, isn't this more a topic for the Bioenergy list than the
Bioconversion list? Shows what you REALLY know hu? Lets talk Ethanol from retention
pond catails on my jobs potentially fueling my trucks. How about wood chip
producer gas to gasoline done on the farm with FT process. How about the global
effect of gasifying, carbonising all demolition wastewood as energy for the steel
industry? Now that's Bioconversion. Yea, I'm working on it, give me a Damn
minute.
Dan Dimiduk
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