[Bioconversion] Carbon Arc Steam Reforming of biomass

Dick Glick dglickd at pipeline.com
Sat Jun 23 16:21:25 EDT 2007


Hello Tom --

That's right and during WWII -- Germany ran on slave labor -- and the 
environment be damned -- And -- the conditions may be slightly different --  
but the environment and the labor issues differ -- but only slightly in 
South Africa -- I'll be glad to send all that stuff on how the National 
Academy of Science evaluated the degraded U. S. supply of coal -- but that 
stuff is in the news -- last week in the New York Times.

Best, Dick Glick
www.CorpFutRes.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tombreed at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Bioconversion] Carbon Arc Steam Reforming of biomass


> Dear All:
>
> In one sense we are all "up to speed" on this.
>
> DUring WWII the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe ran to a great degree on synthetic 
> fuels - BTX from coal pyrolysis for high octane aviation fuel; 
> Fischer-Tropsch diesel for tanks and trucks.  The allied air forces went 
> after the sythetic fuel plants and brought Germany to its knees.
>
> After the war South Africa scooped up the German syn-fuel engineers, took 
> them to SA, gave them incentives to build Lurgi gasifiers and FT 
> conversion and now more than half the liquid fuel in SA comes from their 
> dreadful coal.  Meanwhile engineers in the US thought they knewbetter with 
> coal hydrogenation and we have nothing here.
>
> During WWII the whole civilian economy ran on WoodGas for trucks buses and 
> cars.
> ~~~~~~
>
> It is well known that the rate of chemical reactions doubles  for every 10 
> degrees C rise in temperature.  So those operations from 400-1000 C are 
> much more compact than those at room temperature.  Compare the size of 
> breweries and distilleries to syn-fual plants.  Also room temperature 
> plants produce 10 gallons of dirty water for every gallon of fuel.  Yes, 
> Brazil has been moderately successful with ethanol from sugar cane, but it 
> is highly land and labor intensive.
>
> So we know a lot about high temperature processes that have worked in the 
> past and now need to be modernized.
>
> Yours truly,]
>
> TOM REED   (in Beaverton, OR)
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Jeff Davis" <jeff0124 at velocity.net>
>> Peter wrote:
>> > OK -- anyone out there up to speed on this??
>>
>> Not yet Peter.
>>
>> Jeff
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>> -- 
>> Jeff Davis
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>> Some where 20 miles south of Lake Erie, USA
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