[Digestion] the horizontal digester from Bangalore

adkarve adkarve at pn2.vsnl.net.in
Wed Nov 8 18:12:37 CST 2006


Dear Robert,
this digester is called plug flow digester. It uses green leaves as
feedstock. It consists of a concave underground tunnel, into which you
pushed green leaves from one end and the spent leaves came out from the
other end. The material remained in the fermenter for a period of about 36
days. It was tested by the Bangalore workers under field conditions and a
paper was published about it. The main difficulty was that the green leaves
were collected by the users in the lands surrounding the village and they
soon ran out of the leaves. The authors came to the conclusion that you
needed dedicated fields, similar to plantations of mulberry for supplying
leaves to silkworms or fields producing green fodder for cattle. Such an
arrangement would make the leaves very costly.
Yours
A.D.Karve
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Deutsch <robdeutsch at online.com.kh>
To: <digestion at listserv.repp.org>
Cc: Anselm <mythri at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Digestion] Digester for Municipal Waste (Bernd Haase)


> Dear Dr. Karve and Bernd,
>
> I seem to recall back in about 1995 seeing a test anaerobic digester at an
> appropriate technology development center in Bangalore (forgot the name of
> the place.... was it ASTRA or something like that? or India Institute of
> Technology....??).  As I recall, there was a large ferro-cement tunnel
about
> 2.6 m diameter x 6 meters long with a siphon type water trap at each end
to
> keep gas from escaping.  We were told that the test was successful and was
> being scaled-up (40t per day sounds right) at an other site.  We were
there
> to look at low cost building materials, so only heard about the digester
in
> passing.  Anyone know more details?
>
> Robert in Phnom Penh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adkarve" <adkarve at pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> To: <digestion at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:06 PM
> Subject: [Digestion] Digester for Municipal Waste (Bernd Haase)
>
>
> > Through this message I wish to convey that biogas is not always the
ideal
> > fuel for producing electricity. Methane is a high grade form of fuel. If
> > you
> > want to run an internal combustion engine, you may have to convert the
> > biomass into methane. But a lot energy is lost in the process of
> > biomethanation itself. One kg dry dung would yield 2600 kcal of energy
if
> > it
> > is burned directly, but converted into methane, it yields only 600 kcal
> > energy. Drying dung or any other biomass for direct combustion is not a
> > problem in India.One can produce electricity by using a steam turbine,
in
> > which the steam can be generated by burning any fuel. The sugar industry
> > burns bagasse for this purpose. Similarly, municipal solid waste can
also
> > be
> > burned directly to produce steam and the steam can be used to produce
> > electricity.
> > Yours
> > A.D.Karve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Shrinivas Kasulla <na_sh81 at yahoo.co.in>
> > To: <digestion at listserv.repp.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:12 PM
> > Subject: [Digestion] Fwd: Re: Digestion Digest, Vol 5,Issue 2.,large
Scale
> > Digester for Municipal Waste (Bernd Haase)
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> thats true sir ive also read about many articles and i
> >> do feel that u are absolutely correct and i do value
> >> ur suggestions and as far as Dr. Ramanujam's
> >> suggestions and observations of his demo plant is
> >> concerned, i have visited that plant and yes they are
> >> working on a very good technology and i do feel that
> >> such type of plants will b having great demand in the
> >> near future.
> >>
> >> with regards
> >> Srinivas Kasulla
> >> Project Cordinator
> >> Note: forwarded message attached.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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