[Digestion] Calculating methane production

finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu
Thu May 3 12:25:20 CDT 2007


Hello AD's -

Actually, the logical parameters are those obtained through standard
"Proximate" analysis of foods - i.e., collective tests for fats, proteins
and carbohydrates. Calorie estimate can then be made - and listed on the
labels of all those tempting cookies. Somehow - and I don't know exactly
how - calories can be converted to methane.

When you think of it, COD, TS, VS are less appropriate - though deeply
embedded in waste mentality. Same with bomb calorimetry - as reult may
have little to do with digestability.

Mel

Melvin S. Finstein, Ph.D.
Emeritus Professor of Environmental Science
 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
Head, ArrowBio USA

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> From: "Eric Fitch" <fitch at springstreetgarage.com>
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> Dear AD Listers,
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> Can anyone site a credible reference that explains how to calculate the
> methane output from a proposed digester with a known feedstock?  I am
> looking for a valid set of equations where inputs would be measurable
> properties like COD, TSS, VS, etc. and the output would be a normalized
> result, like mass of methane produced per mass of COD input.
>
>
>
> I have found conflicting references while searching the web that result in
> an order of magnitude variation.  Unfortunately this spread straddles the
> point of viability for this project.  In order to move forward I need more
> confidence in the expected methane output.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric Fitch
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> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Warren Weisman <weiswar at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digestion] Calculating Methane Generation
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> Eric,
>
> You're asking the million dollar question, but the
> answer is methane production is a variable and no one
> has done a definitive work on it, yet. There's no way
> to predict it with great accuracy---which makes it so
> fun to work with!
>
> But you might find some use in METHANE GENERATION FROM
> HUMAN, ANIMAL AND AGRICULTURAL WASTES by the National
> Academy of Sciences. It predicts a methane
> production---separated from biogas---between 3.6-4.8
> cubic feet per pound of volatile solids over 15 days.
> but, of course there's things---like gas recirculation
> and better stirring---that can be done to improve gas
> production and of course, lots you can do to reduce
> it, too! The above mentioned book has exhaustive
> footnotes and references. Another helpful resource is
> A CHINESE BIOGAS MANUAL---which is the small digester
> standard at this time.
>
> Warren Weisman, USA
>
> --- Eric Fitch <fitch at springstreetgarage.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear AD Listers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone site a credible reference that explains
>> how to calculate the
>> methane output from a proposed digester with a known
>> feedstock?  I am
>> looking for a valid set of equations where inputs
>> would be measurable
>> properties like COD, TSS, VS, etc. and the output
>> would be a normalized
>> result, like mass of methane produced per mass of
>> COD input.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have found conflicting references while searching
>> the web that result in
>> an order of magnitude variation.  Unfortunately this
>> spread straddles the
>> point of viability for this project.  In order to
>> move forward I need more
>> confidence in the expected methane output.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Eric Fitch
>>
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