[Digestion] Calculating methane production

finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu
Fri May 4 06:32:55 CDT 2007


Duncan -

As you say (in effect): one man's junk (one microbe's metabolic waste) is
another man's treasure (another microbe's substrate). But questioning the
complexity of the metabolic web terminating in methane was not what
started the thread. Rather, the question asked was - how to estimate
methane production.

Mel


> Come on lads!!
>
> I might speak only for myself but I think it's an abuse of a forum like
> this
> for folk to use it as a replacement for ten minutes work in a half-decent
> public library or on the internet. I'm more tolerant when the enquiry
> comes
> from somewhere remote. But I don't think the USA qualifies!
>
> For info, Steve, yes there is a mass of research and "a particularly good
> methanogenic microbial community" is characterized by a great diversity of
> species, very many of which are not methanogens. Now, go read!
>
> Fraternally yours
>
> Duncan J Martin
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Verhey" <verheys at hotmail.com>
> To: <finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu>; <digestion at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digestion] Calculating methane production
>
>
>>
>> Presumably not all organisms in an anaerobic environment are
>> methanogens.
>> Is
>> there research on what a particularly good methanogenic microbial
>> community
>> looks like? Maybe it's even possible to make an inoculum that would get
>> things started off in the right direction?
>>
>> Steve Verhey, Ph.D
>> Biologist at Large
>> Ellensburg, WA USA
>>
>>>From: finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu
>>>To: digestion at listserv.repp.org
>>>CC: digestion at listserv.repp.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Digestion] Calculating methane production
>>>Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:25:20 -0400 (EDT)
>>>
>>>Hello AD's -
>>>
>>>Actually, the logical parameters are those obtained through standard
>>>"Proximate" analysis of foods - i.e., collective tests for fats,
>>> proteins
>>>and carbohydrates. Calorie estimate can then be made - and listed on the
>>>labels of all those tempting cookies. Somehow - and I don't know exactly
>>>how - calories can be converted to methane.
>>>
>>>When you think of it, COD, TS, VS are less appropriate - though deeply
>>>embedded in waste mentality. Same with bomb calorimetry - as reult may
>>>have little to do with digestability.
>>>
>>>Mel
>>>
>>>Melvin S. Finstein, Ph.D.
>>>Emeritus Professor of Environmental Science
>>>  Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
>>>Head, ArrowBio USA
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>>>Email: finstein at envsci.rutgers.edu
>>>Skype: melvinfinstein
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>>>
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