[Digestion] Fate of CO2
Duncan Martin
duncanjmartin at eircom.net
Tue Sep 11 15:01:40 EDT 2007
Lou and all
The principle of sequestration is fine - but I very much doubt that the
economics would work for AD.
You have obviously grasped one of the major problems, that of scale, when
you suggest locating the biogas plant near a carbon sequestration site
(which would certainly have to be near a major source, such as a large power
plant or a large sink, such as an oilfield). Such installations are not
generally in the same areas as anaerobic digesters.
The energy used to haul the digester feedstock to the biogas plant and to
haul the digestate back to wherever it is to be used would add substantially
to the operating costs of the biogas plant, the economics of which are
generally fairly marginal at best.
At the scale of many biogas plants, a more realistic option might be to
supply it to glasshouses, where it would be sequestered by boosting plant
growth. At least one Scotch whisky distillery was doing this 30 years ago,
although the CO2 came from the fermentation process, not from a biogas
plant.
(The Scots might be a more cheerful race, if it were not for the fact that
only 50% of the carbohydrate that goes into a distillery comes out as
ethanol!! The remainder, of course, is lost as CO2. However, they can
console themselves with a per capita production rate of ethanol about 10x
higher than their nearest competitor! 20x would be nice, of course - but why
be greedy?)
An interesting alternative might be to release it in an unconfined growing
environment, such as a biomass plantation or forest. I do not know how
efficient the capture of CO2 would be but my guess would be that a dense
plantation or forest canopy might extract quite a lot of the CO2, at least
in summer, provided it was released at ground level and well away from the
edges of the planted area. An efficiency well below 100% would still make a
useful contribution, given that the energy cost and transport costs would be
almost zero.
Otherwise, I do not think there is usually much alternative to venting the
CO2 to atmosphere. It might be argued that this is equally good, since it
will sooner or later be taken up by plant growth anyway. It follows that the
above 'forest' proposal would only be useful if there was a significant
improvement in the biomass growth rate -- which there might be.
Duncan J Martin
Chair
Republic of Ireland Centre
Chartered Institution of Wastes Management
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Dobb" <congoagriculture at yahoo.com>
To: <Digestion at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: [Digestion] What happens to CO2 when scrubbed out of biogas?
Okay, I'm a bit of a lay man, but I wonder what happens to the CO2 if it is
scrubbed out of biogas by water washing.
And, importantly, wouldn't it be possible to store this CO2 underground (as
in carbon capture and storage systems; in depleted oil fields)? This would
make biogas carbon-negative.
In principle you could make ultra-clean biogas near a carbon sequestration
site (independently of power plants), store the carbon there, and export the
carbon-negative biomethane which is now upgraded to natural gas quality.
You would get a premium for this carbon-negative gas (carbon currently costs
â,¬20 per ton, but this is expected to increase significantly).
So has anyone thought about coupling biogas production to CCS?
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