[Gasification] ...a question about hybrids

[Mike Redler]

Hi Max, et al

I meant a separate alternator coupled to the trailer axle which could be 
controlled by a load cell attached to the trailer hitch. When it sees a 
load, it assists in slowing the vehicle down by increasing field 
excitation and converts mechanical energy back to electrical energy.

Re: Harmon's bus + trailer

I don't see a difference. He would just need longer cables to get 
electrical power to the electric motor (presumably at the front of the 
bus). If it's big, like a school bus, the motor controls might need to 
be a little more sophisticated and of course, the wire gage and 
batteries would be scaled up as well. When all is said and done, I'm not 
sure an arrangement that size would be cost effective.

...then again, this is all speculation - isn't it?

Mike

gasman wrote:
>
> Hello Mike and All!
>
>
> What would that do?
>
> Increasing exitation on the alternator driven by the
> woodgas motor? You hardly ment that!
>
> Perhaps increasing the exitation on the electric motors
> driving the VECHICLE, when they are in BRAKING MODE?
>
> And I was talking about Harmon's Bus + trailer!
>
> Max
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Redler" <redlerm at yahoo.com>
> To: <GASIFICATION at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] ...a question about hybrids
>
>
>> Hey Max.
>>
>> Those are good reasons. But, I was imagining the gassifier, generator 
>> and batteries right next to each other on the trailer. The only thing 
>> going to the car/truck would be wires. If you were really ambitious, 
>> you could control the excitation field of an alternator (for example) 
>> with a load cell at the trailer hitch  and induce regenerative breaking.
>>
>> Re: Honda Civic - That was an awful example so, please disregard.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> gasman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Harmon and All!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some reason for opposing this idea...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Although I guess if I was pulling
>>>> the gasifier behind the bus, that long tube carrying
>>>
>>>> the woodgas to the front would be cooling it more
>>>
>>>> than enough.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A long, constantly cooling line going below the dew point
>>> will make a heck of trouble! It collects a lot of sludge
>>>
>>> containing condense and FT waxes + everything
>>> "microscopic" that may pass the filters! There you have
>>>
>>> a never ending cleaning job guaranteed...
>>>
>>> Not to speak of how to avoid getting it in the motor.
>>>
>>> In winter conditions this is hopeless.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Instead, the trailer should include all the needed stages
>>>
>>> of cleaning and cooling and put a ready made gas, clean
>>> and DRY along the line to the mixer near the intake
>>> manifold.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This includes: Cyclone, glasfibre filter, cooler
>>> (as a tube fence on each side of the trailer, where the
>>>
>>> "speed wind" is ample), re-heating in a mantle welded
>>>
>>> on the cyclone (with a shunt tube having a butterfly
>>>
>>> valve to trim the re-heating), truck-size paperfilter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The re-heated and DRY gas uses the cheap and effective
>>>
>>> paperfilter. Then the delivery line needs to be
>>>
>>> WELL INSULATED, to keep the gas ABOVE the dew point
>>>
>>> all the way to the motor.
>>>
>>>
>>> The resulting reheating temperature needs to be about
>>>
>>> 10 to 20 degrees warmer at the mixer, than at the
>>>
>>> cooler output. That is a very small PRICE in filling
>>>
>>> volume for the motor, to have trouble free start
>>>
>>> and running!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
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