[Gasification] ...a question about hybrids

[Michael Redler]

"The standard 'battery' is a capacitor."'
   
  Standard? Not now but, maybe soon:
   
  MIT Researchers Fired Up About Battery Alternative
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/MIT_Researchers_Fired_Up_About_Battery_Alternative.html
  
SuperCap Battery 
  http://www.bairesrobotics.com.ar/elektor/10-2003%20SuperCap%20Battery.pdf
   
  As far as the whole concept is concerned, I agree with Tom (I think it was Tom). It's ingenious. Someone actually thought of a way to augment a conventional gasoline powered car with a motor/generator without significant modifications to the vehicle. In my opinion, it takes conventional wisdom on hybrids and stands it on it's head.
   
  I really don't know one way or the other what the numbers might be but, I'm really curious to find out.
   
  Mike
  
Mark Ludlow <mark at ludlow.com> wrote:
  Hope springs eternal.

The standard "battery" is a capacitor. Refer to your high school physics
text to discover what its storage and discharge characteristics are. These
folk anticipate offering a lithium ion battery pack (read:$$), so it must
not be a cure-all for storage. Watt x hour density is ok but not phenomenal;
leakage is a big problem and cost is high.

Is this really going to take "...a minimum of three seconds" off the 0-60
time of my Turbo Carrera? All of that power transmitted through that 11mm
wide HTD belt drive!

What is the technology? Is it energy storage? Generator/motor hybridism? In
times of doubt, fall back on first principles: Conservation of Energy, Mass
and Momentum.

Mark

(The Carrera? I wish!)


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Dear All,

For producer gas it does have some arousing points:

For a genset it may help with governor droop.

For the auto and lorry the larger battery pak would help with cranking and
fanning. Also assist up hills. Furthermore at a stop light it could be
charging hence lower gasifier turndown ratio (maybe).

Jeff



Tom wrote:
> Dear Phil, Jeff and Das:
>
> This retrofit of conventional engines to hybrid is a very ingenious 
> idea, depending on new technologies not available a decade ago. How 
> practical remains to be seen.
>
> Thanks Jeff.
>
> TOM REED BEF
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> --
>
>
> Jeff Davis wrote:
>> Dear List,
>>
>> Here's a link to spice up your suction gas hybrid:
>>
>> http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/electrocharger/electrocharger.php
>>
>> Gottta go, later
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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>


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Jeff Davis