[Gasification] Chicken Little

[Peter Singfield]

>Interesting--- Catalytic burner followed by an ORC??
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>
>Kurt


We discussed that on this list a while ago -- year or more -- after I came
across a Russian engineering paper where they were doing exactly this for
large apartment buildings -- on the roofs -- using natural gas for fueling
the cats -- and ORC to make the power.

All waste heat was used for thermal purposes.

Over all efficiencies very high -- and maintenance -- no attendant -- free
operation.

And a 30 or more year life expectancy.

It certainly adds new dimensions to what could be done with bio methane.

And we questioned if gasifier product could also be a fuel for a cat -- 

The problem for us little folks is getting Mr. Good-turbo-extractor!

The big deal now is they direct couple turbo extractors whizzing along of
50,000 RPM and more with really high tech PM magnet dynamos --

That boosted over all electric power extraction percentages by quite a bit.

Sure -- there are plenty of ongoing problem solving in regards to
conserving energy -- but not in the major Western Industrialized nations.

As we note -- they have managed to convince most of their citizens - -there
really is no problem.

Thus those people see no real need to hurry and make plans.

Everyone is to comfortable having a good time pigging out on energy to have
to stop and do some planning -- then do the work involved to realize plans.
May the better planners survive -- 

Much easier to call it chicken little complex -- then sit back -- plan
nothing -- do nothing.

Right all you fat assed living in modern nations of mankind dudes!!

Denial and procrastination rule --- not clear observation and realistic
though processes -- and especially not planning for anything -- and very
especially -- planning for something "long-term"

so if we have enough oil to continue being energy gluttons for another
thousand years -- what is the problem??

Under such mental habits -- Die off -- eventually -- is thus a "given" --
especially when any kind of change comes as a major surprise -- and panic
(a very natural event among humans -- one of our specie's major failings)
develops.

Bee can plan for a winter and put up food at an instinctual level.

Humans -- being much more sophisticated life forms can use intelligent
observations to guide for future -- then plan for survival.

Well -- that was before the modern man arrived.

As Einstein once put it -- the WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones.

But I seriously doubt there will be peoples form the Western Industrialized
nations doing any fighting should such a war occur -- even if they do
survive their self imposed die-off wish (\Rapture anyone??) -- they be to
lazy and out of shape -- for the most part -- to dig up stones or chop good
sticks.

Hell -- they probably mostly don't know how to dig -- period -- never mind
chop!!

They do know how to play the politically correct grants game -- and con out
a living!!

Of course all of those kind of people must stay totally blind to realities.

you do not panic if you have a plan.

But when large segments of humanity refuse to do any real planning -- you
just know one mother of a panic will come.

What caused the dinosaur era to die-off into extinction -- for so many
species -- was that they became to over specialized.

Dependence on "cheap-energy" -- no matter from which source -- is -- in the
long term -- to over specialized.

It is not about the sky falling down -- it is about being a grass hopper
and not believing that winters always come around.

Peter / Belize

At 12:54 PM 4/6/2007 +1000, rkurt at tadaust.org.au wrote:
>John Bertl wrote:
>> There is always one in every crowd.  Not to give away my age or anything
but 
>> I've heard that we were going to run out of oil several times.  Graphs
were 
>> shown and proofs were positive - consumption was exceeding production and 
>> reserves would be used up by 1960 - then 1970 - then 1990 - then 2010.
You 
>> can make numbers say anything you want.  The only truth is there will
always 
>> be doomsayers who can't add.  For a ray of hope check out this site.
>>
>> http://flexenergy.com/
>>
>>   
>Interesting--- Catalytic burner followed by an ORC??
>
>
>Kurt
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