[Gasification] The ultimate micro sized gasifier power plant

Sat Apr 21 21:57:53 CDT 2007

Peter.

Have you been to long in the Belize sun? You are obviously very intelligent 
but you rave about everything.

I for one belongs to this list to LEARN stuff. I have been biting my tong to 
not respond to your rants but for this time ONLY  I have to say, please give 
it a rest. Tom is doing his very best to keep this, and the terra preta list 
on track, SO, lets respect that. To a great loss to us all, some have left 
our discussions due to ranting's that have absolutely nothing to do with 
ether bioenergy, gasification or terra preta. PLEASE, lets get back to 
respectable discussions Thanks

John Flottvik

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Peter Singfield" <snkm at btl.net <mailto:snkm at btl.net>>

To: <gasification at listserv.repp.org <mailto:gasification at listserv.repp.org>>

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: [Gasification] The ultimate micro sized gasifier power plant

>

> By my past experience with actual quotes for units from ORMAT -- they

> always recommend "Air" condensers.

>

> In fact - -they do not even supply water cooling systems.

>

> So strange they -- apparently -- did it different in Arizona (apparently)

> this time??

>

> Remember when ORMAT was on this gas list??

>

> Want me to dig up some of those old postings -- anyone??

>

> Mark -- the structure standing at the bottom left in the big picture could

> be and air blown condenser you know??

>

> OK -- which group on this mail list got wiped out trying to build a solar

> ORC in the past using a scroll compressor as prime mover even after I

> repeatedly told them it can't work as the scroll compressor was set up

> without sufficient expansion volume -- but they just kept arguing with me

> -- blew a fortune -- and died soon after!!

>

> Were you part of that project Mark??

>

> And thus you have come to the logical conclusion it can't ever work??

>

> Even though -- obviously -- it does work and real well??

>

> For the record -- I have appended something of interest dating back to:

>

> "Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:40:28 +0200"

>

> I am beginning to become uncfortable with the grwoing "Flat-Earth"

> mentality on this list ---

>

> Time to take another extended vacation while you all prove to each other's

> total contentment just how flat the earth is -- and always will be --

> without being distracted with any external data showing it is really

> "round" -- eh??

>

> Got to keep that little "click" happy -- eh??

>

> Ethanol from food -- and forever!!

>

>

>

> Peter/Belize

>

>

>

> At 06:14 PM 4/21/2007 -0700, Mark Ludlow wrote:

>>Ted,

>>

>>Please correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that this system uses a

>>cooling tower for condensation. Given that a global water shortage stands

>>next in line after global energy shortages, this may not represent a very

>>elegant design solution, especially for the Arizona desert.

>>

>>Mark

>>

>

> ***********appended of interest**********

>

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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:40:28 +0200

> Subject: RE: GAS-L: Gasification for Village Power

>

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> Actually, gasifiers are mainly used for small or mid scale power 
> generation

> in the industry.

> Good example is India.

> My personal opinion is that for less then 75 kWe gasifiers are to complex.

> Better, cheaper and more reliable results can be achieved using direct

> combustion.

>

> With regards

>

> Zoli Bihari

> Project Manager - R&D

> Ormat Ltd. - Israel

> Tel: 972 (8) 9433731

> Fax: 972(8)9439901

> E-mail: zbihari at ormat.com <mailto:zbihari at ormat.com>

> zolib at coolingzone.com <mailto:zolib at coolingzone.com>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Tom Miles [mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:55 AM

> To: gasification at crest.org <mailto:gasification at crest.org>

> Subject: GAS-L: Gasification for Village Power

>

>

> Where are gasifiers actually being used for village power in "mini grids"?

> Any installations for combined heat and power? 25-150 kWe?

>

> Combined heat and power systems seem to run about 4500 hours per year in

> Europe. Are there any gasification systems that we can point to that do a

> similar duty in cold climates year after year?

>

> Regards,

>

> Tom Miles

> Thomas R Miles tmiles at trmiles.com <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com>

> T R Miles, TCI Tel 503-292-0107

> 1470 SW Woodward Way Fax 503-292-2919

> Portland, OR 97225 USA

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