[Gasification] [Digestion] Cattails

[Benjamin Domingo Bof]

Richard, for me this proposal is Fórmula 1 due to low cost and facility of production. 
  Two questions:
  1- In salicaceae meet in last october we see an feller-buncher very expensive made by Komatsu using scissors made in Denmark.
   "Montonero" chief (was present three "bolivarians" students from Los Andes Venezuela) tell us 
  "is not important machine cost , This must work yielding great quantity of crop an hour.
  Using tractors in lifter-shaker we doubt about operation cost relationship. 
  2-- Using straw bales could be possible to gasificate it?.
  Roots to starch digestion and straws to fire.
   One option is vertical using gravity law and the other horizontal making an mild steel box fired by side,collecting gasses in the other. I remember thirty years ago when we bought one Gardner boat motor , mechanical man tell us about gasifiers using alfalfa to fuel one Willys rural in fiftyes.
  Regards; Benjamin
   
  I am familiar with this plant we call it bulrush and our species is 
Scirpus acutus. It grows quite nicely at our farm and it turns out 
water requirements is because of competitive factors and not a 
physiological requirement of the plant, in both typha and scirpus.

The typha though is especially interesting because of the starch rich 
roots that are found in some seasons on this plant. Other starchy root 
aquatic habitat plants have potential such as Wapato, Arrow root or 
duck potato which offers a large starchy root that has been harvested 
as a source of food starch. This plant though requires aquatic habitat 
to grow.

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=SALA2

Rich
On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:53 AM, Benjamin Domingo Bof wrote:

> Richard ; very good video . For me this is the way cheapest vegetals 
> to use as energy. Scirpus Californicus named "totora" in our regions 
> could be other source of cellulosic material. Here more info:
> http://www.peruecologico.com.pe/flo_totora_2.htm
>
> Richard Haard escribió:
> Hmmm
>
> The link did not seem to come through
>
> try again
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybhz-TBrjZs
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2007, at 9:44 PM, Richard Haard wrote:
>
>> Hi Harmon
>>
>> Here is a Youtube link to view our use of the lifter-shaker for bare
>> root harvest an alternate tool to harvest cat-tails , a plant we now
>> cultivate and harvest at our native plant nursery.
>>
>> Rich
>> On Dec 20, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Even if there were, it would be
>>>> difficult to adapt them to modern, mechanised, farming techniques.
>>>
>>> Actually it is quite simple. You grow them in paddys, as you do
>>> rice.
>>> The water level is managed, and when harvesting, you drain the 
>>> paddy,
>>> run first one tractor (with tracks or the huge mud tires) with a
>>> mower
>>> or harvester that cuts off the stalks 3' above the ground, then a
>>> second
>>> tractor following that cuts the stalks at ground level.
>>> Dr. Pratt's group also experimented with harvesting the roots with
>>> modified potato diggers which seemed to work well.
>>
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