[Gasification] Energy Research Habitat

[kenn johnsen]

Mark.

I do not know about the Greenland ice core, I do not know if it is on  
the net, maybe I should look for it. What I have been looking at, is  
the Antarctic ice core data. And after looking for hours at the  
different graphic, I can not at my best will see that the temperature  
follow the CO2, I am convinced that the CO2 follow the temperature, and  
that means....? well if you call a swing of 10 degree F a stable  
temperature, what I understand it does not take much to make a  
difference, the difference between the little ice age and now was 2  
degree F between now and the viking time ( warmer ) was close to 10  
degree F.
http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/

Here is a graphic for the last 600,000,000 years, click warming hoax,  
nor do I see any here that CO2 have any to do with climate temperature.
http://biocab.org/Academic_Curriculum.html

Also how much does those gases mean, compare to water vapour, very  
little, this one is accused to to accept oil money by the believers,  
but that does not mean his calculation is wrong.

torsdag 8. feb 2007 kl. 06:17 skrev Mark Ludlow:

> Hi Kenn,
>
> Can you tell me what results that you draw from a reading of the  
> Greenland
> ice cores? Everything that I have read suggests that the last 10,000  
> or so
> years were remarkably stable, climate-wise, (in Europe at least) due  
> to the
> routing of the Gulf Stream. These same 10,000 years also parallel the  
> rise
> of civilization because, among other things, the stable climate  
> presumably
> allowed agriculture to develop.
>
> Global Warming is probably a misnomer applied by the popular media to  
> what
> is more aptly termed "Global Climate Change". Along with this climate  
> change
> goes a number of other effects, all more dire than the fact that  
> Denmark and
> Oregon (where I live) may be pleasantly warmer. The inability of the  
> oceans
> to recirculate CO2 that is absorbed (the Pacific basin takes  
> 10-centuries to
> mix) is already revealing itself as a depression of pH (because of an
> increased level of carbonic acid). The potential result of this, if
> permitted to continue, is a reduction of the calcium carbonate  
> precipitation
> reaction that is essential for the prospering of not only crustaceans  
> but
> also (more importantly) of almost all of the zooplankton that forms the
> foundational level of the oceans' food chain.
>
> Of course this is just part of the emerging evidence that rising  
> levels of
> greenhouse gases are threatening to have a profound effect on the  
> biosphere.
> Personally, I tend to be a skeptic, but I am also a scientist and I  
> did not
> begin with a preconceived notion. By the same token, those who wish to
> politicize science, either by outlandish fear-mongering or,  
> conversely, by a
> deliberate willingness to ignore a mounting body of research while
> holding-on to a nonsensical paranoia that there is some vast conspiracy
> afoot, do credit neither to themselves nor to the scientific method.  
> This is
> not a game of "My data point is better than your data point!".
>
> I respectfully encourage you to revisit the ice core data and a read a  
> few
> juried scientific journals. If you have some credible evidence to  
> support
> your viewpoint I would sincerely like to know the reference.
>
> Mark Ludlow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
> [mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of kenn  
> johnsen
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:50 AM
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Energy Research Habitat
>
> I suggest that you with all your scientific training, take a look at  
> the
> climate - CO2 history the ice core, before you deny that you are a  
> scammer a
> con man - and you are promoting a hoax. And when you are about it,  
> think -
> well you have done all about that - what can I say, rethink the means  
> of
> gases and water vapour in the atmosphere.
>
> Kenn
> onsdag 7. feb 2007 kl. 19:13 skrev MMBTUPR at aol.com:
>
>>                from   Lewis L Smith
>>
>> In a previous post, I suggested five simple things that a  person
>> without scientific training could do to verify the severity of global
>> warming.
>>
>> I suggest that you do just one of them, before you call this
>> phenomenon " a hoax " again. If you are not convinced, do two. And so
>> on.
>>
>> Sincerely. End of message.
>>
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