[Gasification] engines (TESLA TURBINE)

[Ken Boak]

Kenn, & List

If you look at his own test report, 
http://www.frank.germano.com/images/itpeff1.jpg   and

http://www.frank.germano.com/images/itpeff2.jpg

he's feeding 800lbs/hr of steam through the turbine and getting 14.8hp 
output.

 (363kg of steam/hr for 11.04kW - steam has specific latent heat of 
evaporation of 2.2MJ/kg   - before you start raising its temperature above 
boiling point).

That makes the steam consumption   54 lbs/hp/hr   -   about 4.9% thermal 
efficient

As for his efficiency figures,  these have been  "cooked"  by dividing the 
observed power from the "theoretical maximum of 35hp".   Efficiency is power 
out/ fuel power in -in most people's books.

There appears to be little sign of good scientific practice anywhere on this 
site, and the test report was written by a representative from 
"International Turbine and Power LLC"  who appear to have a vested interest 
in furthering the myth about the Tesla turbine.

Next we will be into conspiracy theories that the tesla turbine has been 
suppressed since 1911, by the oil companies.

FACE FACTS - IT'S A GOOD SLURRY PUMP, BUT A LOUSY PRIME MOVER

I consider this subject no longer worthy of a credible discusssion list, 
such as this.


Ken




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kenn johnsen" <kennj at webspeed.dk>
To: <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Gasification] engines (TESLA TURBINE)


>    Ken
>
>    No I am sure that it is thermo-mechanical efficiency, no I do not
> think that just because it is technical possible, it will be made - be
> done. It may not be political possible.
>
>    http://www.frank.germano.com/theturbine.htm
>
>    Kenn
>
>> Kenn,
>>
>> I think you will find that this is the mechanical efficiency (ie
>> bearing and windage losses) and not the thermo-mechanical efficiency.
>>
>> If the fuel in to power out efficiency were 95%, do you not think that
>> we would have had these running our powerstations since the 1920s?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kenn johnsen" <kennj at webspeed.dk>
>> To: <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] engines (TESLA TURBINE)
>>
>>
>>> There is one working on it on gobox group, he have mentioned 95 %
>>> efficiency.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>> fredag 16. feb 2007 kl. 17:24 skrev Ken Boak:
>>>
>>>> Harmon, Geoff & List,
>>>>
>>>> Tesla has been elevated to the heights of a scientific demi-god by
>>>> the
>>>> reams
>>>> of writings by over-enthustic laymen on alternative energy internet
>>>> forums.
>>>> "He invented 6 over-unity devices before breakfast......"
>>>>
>>>> No one working on Tesla turbines has published verifiable efficiency
>>>> figures
>>>> that suggest that it is any better than a simple reciprocating steam
>>>> engine.
>>>>
>>>> If it needs 40lbs of steam per hp/hr (6.7%) , then forget it,  if
>>>> it's
>>>> 10lbs/hp/hr (26.8%) then it might be worth getting excited about it.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time I will continue my woodgas and veg oil dual fuelling
>>>> experiments, where I know I can convert waste veg oil to electricity
>>>> at a
>>>> reliable 22% efficiency.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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