[Gasification] Hydrogen

[Michael Redler]

Harmon,

In order for something to be a hoax, doesn't it need to also need to be 
a lie?

Although I can't see pressurized hydrogen from electrolysis (for 
example) as economical for most applications, it's not a lie. So, it 
sounds like you're calling some of the practical uses of hydrogen a lie. 
I would agree with that. But, Please take care. What do you think is 
worse; overzealous promotion of a particular technology driven by greedy 
exploitation, or stigmatizing that technology so that further 
development never sees the light of day?

I say this because I would hate to see a blanket statement (i.e. "The 
hydrogen hoax") condemning hydrogen technologies (including 
hydrogen-on-demand), stick for every possible use.

Mike

Harmon Seaver wrote:
>   Somehow, I am still amazed that anyone on this list would be posting
> articles promoting hydrogen. The hydrogen hoax has been exposed
> endlessly, ad infinitum. Some really simple tests for the practicality
> of hydrogen as a fuel are these:
>
> 1) How is it produced?
> 	a) nukes?`
> 		The nuclear industry is the primary proponent for hydrogen.
> 	b) solar or wind?	
> 		In this case you really need to do the math. You can charge and run a
> battery powered electrical vehicle much further on solar/wind than you
> can produce H2 by electrolysis and run a fuel cell vehicle. Not to
> mention that the latter costs $3-4 million dollars.
>
> 2) How is it stored?
> 	Well???? H2 is such a small molecule, it leaks thru most barriers.
>
> 3) How is it transported?
> 	There is no known possible way to transport H2 except in very special
> trucks which carry very little actual H2. There is no known possible way
> to supply "gas stations" as we presently know them with H2.
>
>    Now, H2 as included in woodgas and burned either immediately or
> several feet away is another story.
>
>
> Harmon Seaver
>
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