[Gasification] Hydrogen

[Thomas Reed]

Dear Gasification List:

How about instead of "HOAX", we call hydrogen a "GREEN WASHING RED HERRING"?

Green washing has been defined (Scientific American, Nov. 2005 (?)) as 
promising something 20 years in the future (eg fuel cell cars or "the 
hydrogen economy" or cellulosics) so that we can continue our wasteful 
practices today.  A favorite ploy of Bush and GM.

A "Red herring" was drawn across the trail of foxhounds to throw them 
off the track of the fox (or across gasification for heat, power and 
fuel to introduce cellulosics). 
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While PURE hydrogen is a "greenwashing red herring", it is an important 
ingredient in

    * Producer gas, which was delivered in various forms  from 1800-1940
      (when displaced by methane)
    * Synthesis gas (mostly CO and H2), which is used to make methanol,
      Fischer-Tropsch fuels and ammonia, all necessary for the
      continuation of civilization as we know it.

Words count.

TOM REED           THE BIOMASS ENERGY FOUNDATION


Harmon Seaver wrote:
>   Somehow, I am still amazed that anyone on this list would be posting
> articles promoting hydrogen. The hydrogen hoax has been exposed
> endlessly, ad infinitum. Some really simple tests for the practicality
> of hydrogen as a fuel are these:
>
> 1) How is it produced?
> 	a) nukes?`
> 		The nuclear industry is the primary proponent for hydrogen.
> 	b) solar or wind?	
> 		In this case you really need to do the math. You can charge and run a
> battery powered electrical vehicle much further on solar/wind than you
> can produce H2 by electrolysis and run a fuel cell vehicle. Not to
> mention that the latter costs $3-4 million dollars.
>
> 2) How is it stored?
> 	Well???? H2 is such a small molecule, it leaks thru most barriers.
>
> 3) How is it transported?
> 	There is no known possible way to transport H2 except in very special
> trucks which carry very little actual H2. There is no known possible way
> to supply "gas stations" as we presently know them with H2.
>
>    Now, H2 as included in woodgas and burned either immediately or
> several feet away is another story.
>
>
> Harmon Seaver
>
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