[Gasification] Biomass Gasification at the "Chin-dia" price

[Peter Singfield]

At 11:37 AM 6/18/2007 -0700, Tom Miles wrote:
>
>A low cost, reliable small scale gasifier genset with 6,000 hours on it is
>something you seem to be asking for. That's something we don't see very
>often. So how many hours of operation do you have on your Chinese gasifier?
>You've spent a lot of bandwidth on it. Is it up and running? 
>
>Tom Miles
>

Tom and all --

It is not what I can do -- it is all about what my clientele is willing to
invest in to produce power -- off-grid.

Ergo -- hobby VS practical applications.

Try never to lose sight of that.

"Biomass Gasification at the "Chin-dia" price" articles is very "slanted"
-- for one thing -- there main example was totally "funded" -- 

I did note that Daniel Chisholm did not "pick-up" on any of the major
discrepancies there.

Neither did anyone else.

Do you know exactly what message that sends to guys like me Tom??

Who is more like the India/Chinese people in goals than you can ever believe!!

It says we no longer are doing scientific investigation -- we now have a
"cult" happening.

Hey - -easy to shut me up -- put me down -- etc -- just post all those urls
of gasifier systems that meet those extremely basic - -and tolerant
(compared to any other power plant in real world use) conditions.

At some point realities must be faced!!

We also need a list where all types of gasification may be allowed to be
discussed -- breaking it into numerous topics only suffices to confuse the
issues -- keeping everything in their separate boxes -- making sure no new
ideas are ever presented.

Does:

http://listserv.repp.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_listserv.repp.org

"Allow" discussion of gasification processes??

Come on guys -- just what are doing to ourselves!!!

Well -- I will continue to work in real world and continue to solve real
problems -- and meet real challenges -- always in the best manner possible
-- no matter from which box I pull it out from!!

If you insist my gains should be your losses -- well fine -- so be that.

The most interesting "open" place on the net right now in regards to this
topic is found at:

http://bioconversion.blogspot.com/

"Bioconversion" -- no "boxes" -- the entire enchilada!

I remember past times when we list members would get into the real math --
say in regards to converion efficiencies using steam reforming compared to
partial combustion.

Get into the chemistry -- etc.

Now -- we procrastinate -- nobody really cares anymore -- 

Just being in a comfortable box is all that matters --

Steam reforming is gasification -- as much so as partial combustion process
is -- 

Supercritical water gasification the same.

Etc -- etc ---

I'm not saying there should be no discussions on partial combustion
gasification -- I just wonder when it became a "cult" to exclude all other
topics of dicsussion??

Peter/Belize