[Gasification] MOISTURE CONTENT, WATER RETAINING FOR CLIMATE CONTROL

[Richard Haard]

On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:44 AM, Benjamin Domingo Bof wrote:

>  Mahatma Ghandi in India was spread "spinnig wheel" to help indians  
> to make it proper clothes against Briton monopoly of Liverpool  
> existing yet. Gasifiers are rural energy to produce foods and energy.

I agree that the scale of development and the mission proposed by the  
application of the gasification technology should take preference  
over whether or not the gasses contribute to global warming. At this  
scale we are considering survival in a post peak oil world.

The prospect of increasing global consumption of coal by an order of  
magnitude for CTL and power production is what is pushing us into  
irreversible climate change.

> Our fight is heavy and is not against oil companies. Chavez is our  
> partner because high oil
>  prices forced market to search economical solutions. Our enemy are  
> production costsRegards ; Benjamin

I agree that oil costs will allow projects that have been inhibited  
by cheap fossil fuels. Now that these are  changing. Your enemy is  
production costs but there are also other factors you need take into  
consideration. Included in this is a  economic decline that will  
never return because the economic stimulus of fossil fuels cannot be  
replaced. In addition, there is depletion of other non renewable  
critical materials like phosphorus and other materials.

In other words our way of life will be changing hence the industrial  
approach to adaptation for fossil fuel depletion may not be viable.

You may be interested to look at this paper bY Folke Gunther on  
ruralization. It can be downloaded from his website, but might be  
available at University library.

Folke Günther, IV BIENNIAL INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOP,  ADVANCES IN  
ENERGY STUDIES ,ECOLOGY-ENERGY ISSUES IN LATIN AMERICA. , Unicamp,  
Campinas, SP, Brazil. , June 15-19, 2004, RURALISATION A POSSIBLE WAY  
TO ALLEVIATE OUR CURRENT VULNERABILITY PROBLEMS

I like this because the relocalization movement is strictly an urban  
discussion whereas his work considers how we might be living 50 years  
after peak oil basically just like my cousins did in upstate New York  
and my wife's parents/grandparents in Iowa. But what is it that we  
can bring forth from our era of abundant energy?


>
> Benjamin Domingo Bof <benjaminbof at yahoo.com.ar> escribió: Friends,  
> two years ago when we go to Simposium in São Paulo, Brazil;  
> defending ethanol from sugar cane we write an matter presented to  
> IAPA (Inter American Press Assn) "Energia limpia o un futuro  
> incierto" defending bagasse as raw material for cellulosic ethanol.  
> Now we propose in Bella Vista, Corrientes province in Argentine to  
> Major Mario Haberle use poplar and willows to produce cell ethanol.

Benjamin I have a short ,unpublished paper on willow coppicing and  
wildlife enhancement if you would like to use let me know.


> More than fifty years in these county was operated and wood ethanol  
> pant ia a place named "Destino".
> Regards; Benjamin
>
Was this a pulp mill process on sulphuric acid acid extracts in  
pulping process?. We had such a plant here in Bellingham that made  
ethanol from the fermentable faction of the lignin extract that  was  
operated for many years by Georgia Pacific. This was not though  
cellulose ethanol -it was from soluble factions derived from the  
hydrolysis of lignin.


Commercial scale cellulosic ethanol has not yet been proven and will  
require a long period of research and development, supported by  
grants ,subsidies and private investment. I would be wary of the hype  
issued by the venture capitalists and treat this topic as a  
worthwhile basic research topic.

Rich H