[Gasification] Cellulosic Ethanol a dead end

Katahdin Energy Works KatahdinEnergyWorks at verizon.net
Mon Nov 12 07:08:38 EST 2007


Seeding wood piles with fungi does the job naturally; you forgot to ask
Mother Nature about that stuff growing on the wood pile didn't you?

Dr.? FOODY observed this during WWII, isolated the enzymes, patented them
and his heirs sell them; you can do it with the same strains of
fungi...damned if I know how to do it economically or practically, but I
have a friend who's trying. 

Frank J. Heller, MPA
KATAHDIN ENERGY WORKS
12 Belmont St.
Brunswick, ME 04011-3004
207.729.6090
http://mysite.verizon.net/fjheller/


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[mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Reed
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:49 AM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification;
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Subject: [Gasification] Cellulosic Ethanol a dead end

Dear All:

If you think converting the 70% starch in corn into sugar and then into 
ethanol is inefficient, (MAYBE 35% more energy out than in) just try 
stripping the lignin out of cellulosic materials as a hurdle.  Dozens of 
companies (since the first in 1918) have claimed to have the process 
"now commercial", sold stock, then quietly tiptoed away.  Mother Nature 
designed starch to be converted to sugar.  She designed cellulose NOT to 
be converted into sugar.  Given enough subsidies it can be commercial 
today, but so could many other processes with higher payback. 

TOM REED        BEF







Benjamin Domingo Bof wrote:
> Friends, two years ago when we go to Simposium in São Paulo, Brazil;
defending ethanol from sugar cane we write an matter presented to IAPA
(Inter American Press Assn) "Energia limpia o un futuro incierto" defending
bagasse as raw material for cellulosic ethanol. Now we propose in Bella
Vista, Corrientes province in Argentine to Major Mario Haberle use poplar
and willows to produce cell ethanol. More than fifty years in these county
was operated and wood ethanol pant ia a place named "Destino". 
> Regards; Benjamin
>
> Don <daschade at telus.net> escribió: FOLKS,
>  
>   I CAN ACROSS THIS ARTICLE ON THE INTERNET AND WANTED TO SHARE IT.
>    IT SEEMS LIKE USING "TREES" WILL REDUCE THE PRESSURE ON FOOD SUPPLIES 
> FROM USING CORN
>     AND OTHER GRAINS.  YOU COMMENTS ON THIS NEW PROCESS ARE INVITED.  IT 
> IS NOT CLEAR TO ME
>     IF THEY ARE GASIFYING OR USING A SLURRY AS WITH CORN TO ETHANOL?  
> THANKS!
>
>     DON  
>   
>> The New New Fuel
>>     
>    Khosla Ventures-backed Range Fuels to turn wood chips into ethanol.
>   
>> By Kerry A. Dolan
>>
>>
http://www.forbes.com/2007/11/03/energy-khosla-fuels-tech-cz_kd_1105fuels.ht
ml?partner=email
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>> Related Links:
>> Biofuels Bridge Conoco and ADM
>>
http://www.forbes.com/markets/2007/09/27/conoco-phillips-closer-markets-equi
ty-cx_cg_0927markets39.html?partner=email
>>
>> Paul Maidment on Energy 2017
>>
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2007/10/13/paul-maidment-2017-tech-future07
.html?partner=email
>>
>> Amber Waves Of Green
>>
http://www.forbes.com/investingideas/2007/07/26/ethanol-biomass-corn-pf-ii-i
n_mm_0726energyintelligence_inl.html?partner=email
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