[Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 15, Issue 12
Katahdin Energy Works
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Thu Sep 13 10:01:53 EDT 2007
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-----Original Message-----
From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
[mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Ian Gordon
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:49 PM
To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 15, Issue 12
I'm interested in using a gasifier for some kind of heat to electricity
production straight from the boiler. Even if it is inefficient it occurs to
me that in an energy efficient building you could get a lot from it. From
what I have read you can get char for soil improvement as well as carbon
dioxide for algae production but generally the temperature inside should be
a maximum of 700 degrees. if I could get electricity generation from the
heat of the furnace to furnace to generator that would be something else.
I'm more interested in zero emissions and multi-purpose than efficiency
since I'm looking to get efficiency from the building construction itself.
Since I think conservation would act as a kind of multiplier for any
electricity I got. Would a tesla turbine be the way to go?
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> 4. Cancellation (LArry Wilkinson)
> 5. Re: tar cracking theory (Ian Vincent)
> 6. Re: removal from list (Ken Basterfield)
> 7. Re: removal from list (Tom Miles)
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> 9. Re: removal from list The Reason WHY (Alan Bowen)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: gfwhell at aol.com
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:26:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
>
> Toby.
> My sentiments entirely, I have not seen any new ideas on here, ever since
> Peter Singfield was kicked off, because he challenged the Ego of someone
or
> other. There is an old proverb about sticks and stones, the pen is
mightier
> than the sword and all that. let debate rage and , as long as the title of
> the discussion is headed on? each contribution, what does it matter? are
we
> frightened of a virtual punch in the ear when we err? I might not care to
> read about tar cleansing or peanut husk husbandry. so I wont bother to
open
> it. I am interested in high voltage field effect on smoke, plasma, high
> pressure effects on gasses in the presence of catalysts and general thermo
> dynamics etc.the great global warming swindle, as if we make an iota of
> difference, to the warming of our planet certainly don't' like
dictatorships
> where action is taken without approval from the members of a group. count
me
> in or out as the case may be.
>
> GF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Seiler <seilertechco at yahoo.com>
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:05 pm
> Subject: [Gasification] removal from list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Bowen,
>
> I'm interested in who is part of the list and why they leave it. The
> controlled nature of exploratory discussion has caused many to leave that
> could
> contribute immensely to the discussions. In addition to giving notice
> that they
> want to be removed from the list, I would like to see a paragraph why they
> want
> removed, instead of stealthly slipping away by your suggested method.
>
> Toby Seiler, Seiler Technical Co.
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <
> gasification at listserv.repp.org>
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:35:11 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list The Reason WHY
> I agree, Mike.
> I have been considering to leaving here, but I probably will just turn off
> individual emails then just not read the list much.
> Very little of anything that has come into my inbox has been of any value
> to me.
> It is way too far advance from where I am.
> You have given me the urge to go back and start scanning through the early
> posts.
>
> I NEED good info about the best gasifier to build that can be fired with
> real wood blocks that are mostly Southern Yellow Pine from a local truss
> company.
> First I want to build one sized to run a ten hp cast iron Kohler engine on
> a generator.
> With what I would learn there I could move on.
> Maybe a gasifier for my 1939 Pontiac Silverstreak or even my 1975 Jeep
> Cherokee.
> I also have a 1965 Willys Jeep CJ5 that would like a re-birth as a
> gasoline free ride.
>
> Alan Bowen
> Williamsburg, Michigan
>
> Michael Redler <redlerm at yahoo.com> wrote: Toby,
>
> With all due respect, nearly every discussion group on the Internet has
> adopted the same opt-out procedure, making it an unwritten rule that the
> member always has the ability to remove themselves. I would hardly call
> that a "suggested method".
>
> If a member leaves, it would be fine to ask the former member why he/she
> left so we could all learn from it. However, under no circumstances
> should it ever be made a condition for leaving.
>
> FWIW, I used to be moderately active, making a contribution here and
> there, when I thought I had something to ask or share with the group.
> Recent topics like tar cracking and CO2 recycling have turned me into a
> lurker since I'm not ready for some of the advanced discussions. So, if
> I were to take a stab at why people are leaving it's because the subject
> matter has become increasingly advanced and less diverse than I remember
> from the past (strictly my opinion). I'm sure I'm not the only one
> struggling to simply get a reliable design for heat or power before
> going on to peripheral discussions on CO2 recycling (for example).
> Please don't misunderstand. These topics are important. It's just that
> some of us may not be ready for it yet. So, I look for other sources
> which help me with a basic design and the "nuts and bolts" discussions
> which could help me in my current situation.
>
> Mike
>
> Toby Seiler wrote:
> > Mr. Bowen,
> >
> > I'm interested in who is part of the list and why they leave it. The
> controlled nature of exploratory discussion has caused many to leave that
> could contribute immensely to the discussions. In addition to giving
notice
> that they want to be removed from the list, I would like to see a
paragraph
> why they want removed, instead of stealthly slipping away by your
suggested
> method.
> >
> > Toby Seiler, Seiler Technical Co.
> >
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <
> gasification at listserv.repp.org>
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:48:16 -0300
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list The Reason WHY
> Dear Alan
>
> Alan Bowen wrote:
> > I agree, Mike.
> > I have been considering to leaving here, but I probably will just turn
> off individual emails then just not read the list much.
> > Very little of anything that has come into my inbox has been of any
> value to me.
> > It is way too far advance from where I am.
>
> Have you posted a note asking for help, guidance or suggestions in your
> area of interest?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Kevin
>
> > You have given me the urge to go back and start scanning through the
> early posts.
> >
> > I NEED good info about the best gasifier to build that can be fired with
> real wood blocks that are mostly Southern Yellow Pine from a local truss
> company.
> > First I want to build one sized to run a ten hp cast iron Kohler engine
> on a generator.
> > With what I would learn there I could move on.
> > Maybe a gasifier for my 1939 Pontiac Silverstreak or even my 1975 Jeep
> Cherokee.
> > I also have a 1965 Willys Jeep CJ5 that would like a re-birth as a
> gasoline free ride.
> >
> > Alan Bowen
> > Williamsburg, Michigan
> >
> > Michael Redler <redlerm at yahoo.com> wrote: Toby,
> >
> > With all due respect, nearly every discussion group on the Internet has
> > adopted the same opt-out procedure, making it an unwritten rule that the
> > member always has the ability to remove themselves. I would hardly call
> > that a "suggested method".
> >
> > If a member leaves, it would be fine to ask the former member why he/she
> > left so we could all learn from it. However, under no circumstances
> > should it ever be made a condition for leaving.
> >
> > FWIW, I used to be moderately active, making a contribution here and
> > there, when I thought I had something to ask or share with the group.
> > Recent topics like tar cracking and CO2 recycling have turned me into a
> > lurker since I'm not ready for some of the advanced discussions. So, if
> > I were to take a stab at why people are leaving it's because the subject
> > matter has become increasingly advanced and less diverse than I remember
> > from the past (strictly my opinion). I'm sure I'm not the only one
> > struggling to simply get a reliable design for heat or power before
> > going on to peripheral discussions on CO2 recycling (for example).
> > Please don't misunderstand. These topics are important. It's just that
> > some of us may not be ready for it yet. So, I look for other sources
> > which help me with a basic design and the "nuts and bolts" discussions
> > which could help me in my current situation.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Toby Seiler wrote:
> >> Mr. Bowen,
> >>
> >> I'm interested in who is part of the list and why they leave it. The
> controlled nature of exploratory discussion has caused many to leave that
> could contribute immensely to the discussions. In addition to giving
notice
> that they want to be removed from the list, I would like to see a
paragraph
> why they want removed, instead of stealthly slipping away by your
suggested
> method.
> >>
> >> Toby Seiler, Seiler Technical Co.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "LArry Wilkinson" <princewalesisland at hotmail.com>
> To: Gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:21:37 -0700
> Subject: [Gasification] Cancellation
> Please cancel me from your lists. Thanx, Larry Wilkinson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ian Vincent <vincent at igrin.co.nz>
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:52:57 +1200
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] tar cracking theory
> Hi again
>
> Thanks for the replies, both for Mssrs Chisholm. Is that a coincidence of
> family thing?
>
> Now I want to know:
>
> 1. What limits the temperature, Design or Fuel or both?. Is the 1000C
> requirement difficult to achieve in practice? Or perhaps more difficult to
> achieve with some fuels than others?
>
> 2. Is the dryness of the fuel significant in achieving these temperatures
> ie quality control of fuel moisture? (my fuel is wood based)
>
> 3. Catalysts: How difficult and expensive is this? Is this where the
> amateur gets out of their depth, or is this something achievable? What
> catalysts work? And how do you apply them?
>
> I keep hearing this idea that tar can be eliminated with correct gasifier
> design. Yet tar appears to be the plague of gasifiers. I am trying to get
> a
> handle on what makes a gasifier that can crack tar different from one that
> cant.
>
> I know I am asking the right people.
>
> TIA
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 12:00 10/09/2007 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Mon, 2007-10-09 at 15:14 +1200, Ian Vincent wrote:
> > > I am wondering what is the general principle in cracking the tar in a
> raw
> > > fuel gasifier, if indeed those are the correct words. Obviously some
> >
> >One or more of:
> >
> >1 - Temperature (1000C or more)
> >2 - partial oxidation
> >3 - catalysis
> >
> >--
> >- Daniel
> >Fredericton, NB Canada
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ken Basterfield" <ken at basterfield.com>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" <
> gasification at listserv.repp.org>
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:11:34 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
> I hadn't noticed this list being particularly censorious.
> Has Peter been kicked off or is he is one of his busy, quiet periods?
> ken
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
> [mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of
> gfwhell at aol.com
> Sent: 13 September 2007 01:27
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
>
>
>
> Toby.
> My sentiments entirely, I have not seen any new ideas on here, ever since
> Peter Singfield was kicked off, because he challenged the Ego of someone
> or
> other. There is an old proverb about sticks and stones, the pen is
> mightier
> than the sword and all that. let debate rage and , as long as the title of
> the discussion is headed on? each contribution, what does it matter? are
> we
> frightened of a virtual punch in the ear when we err? I might not care to
> read about tar cleansing or peanut husk husbandry. so I wont bother to
> open
> it. I am interested in high voltage field effect on smoke, plasma, high
> pressure effects on gasses in the presence of catalysts and general thermo
> dynamics etc.the great global warming swindle, as if we make an iota of
> difference, to the warming of our planet certainly don't' like
> dictatorships
> where action is taken without approval from the members of a group. count
> me
> in or out as the case may be.
>
> GF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Seiler <seilertechco at yahoo.com>
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:05 pm
> Subject: [Gasification] removal from list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Bowen,
>
> I'm interested in who is part of the list and why they leave it. The
> controlled nature of exploratory discussion has caused many to leave that
> could
> contribute immensely to the discussions. In addition to giving notice
> that
> they
> want to be removed from the list, I would like to see a paragraph why they
> want
> removed, instead of stealthly slipping away by your suggested method.
>
> Toby Seiler, Seiler Technical Co.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" <
> gasification at listserv.repp.org>
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:17:16 +1200
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
> All,
>
> Since I am travelling I haven't followed this discussion. It is a curious
> thread. It makes it sounds like a number of people have left the list. Not
> so. We have 860 members. There has been a turnover of 40-50 per year for
> the
> last 11 years. Membership has usually run about 850-900.
>
> You will find a great deal of information in the archives and often you
> will
> find answers to questions on the list but the listservs have always been
> proactive: you have to ask the question to get the answer you're looking
> for.
>
> People have left the list for as many different reasons as they have
> joined.
> Some want to be entertained and leave when the discussion slows. Others
> leave when traffic is high. At the same time people join with equally
> diverse expectations.
>
> We host these lists as a service to the community. As for censorship list
> members usually keep each other in balance. I'm a tolerant person. In more
> than 12 years I have only had to remove two people among thousands of
> subscribers on five lists. They had to be pretty rude to the list
> administrators, moderators and/or members. And they had to work very hard
> to
> lose their right to participate on the lists. Peter was one of them.
>
> Tom Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
> [mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Ken
> Basterfield
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:12 PM
> To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
>
> I hadn't noticed this list being particularly censorious.
> Has Peter been kicked off or is he is one of his busy, quiet periods?
> ken
>
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> [mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of
> gfwhell at aol.com
> Sent: 13 September 2007 01:27
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
>
>
>
> Toby.
> My sentiments entirely, I have not seen any new ideas on here, ever since
> Peter Singfield was kicked off, because he challenged the Ego of someone
> or
> other. There is an old proverb about sticks and stones, the pen is
> mightier
> than the sword and all that. let debate rage and , as long as the title of
> the discussion is headed on? each contribution, what does it matter? are
> we
> frightened of a virtual punch in the ear when we err? I might not care to
> read about tar cleansing or peanut husk husbandry. so I wont bother to
> open
> it. I am interested in high voltage field effect on smoke, plasma, high
> pressure effects on gasses in the presence of catalysts and general thermo
> dynamics etc.the great global warming swindle, as if we make an iota of
> difference, to the warming of our planet certainly don't' like
> dictatorships
> where action is taken without approval from the members of a group. count
> me
> in or out as the case may be.
>
> GF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Seiler <seilertechco at yahoo.com>
> To: gasification at listserv.repp.org
> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:05 pm
> Subject: [Gasification] removal from list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Bowen,
>
> I'm interested in who is part of the list and why they leave it. The
> controlled nature of exploratory discussion has caused many to leave that
> could
> contribute immensely to the discussions. In addition to giving notice
> that
> they
> want to be removed from the list, I would like to see a paragraph why they
> want
> removed, instead of stealthly slipping away by your suggested method.
>
> Toby Seiler, Seiler Technical Co.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
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> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:53:19 EDT
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list
> to Tom Miles from Lewis L Smith
>
> Thank you Tom, for a good post.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <
> gasification at listserv.repp.org>
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:08:00 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] removal from list The Reason WHY
> Yes I did and got very little good help.
> like I said,
> I will have to go start digging through the old posts and see if there is
> info so I can learn from the ground up.
>
> If someone would just tell me where to start to use the wood I mentioned
> best that would be great.
>
> Alan Bowen
> Williamsburg, Michigan
>
> Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net> wrote: Dear Alan
>
> Alan Bowen wrote:
> > I agree, Mike.
> > I have been considering to leaving here, but I probably will just turn
> off individual emails then just not read the list much.
> > Very little of anything that has come into my inbox has been of any
> value to me.
> > It is way too far advance from where I am.
>
> Have you posted a note asking for help, guidance or suggestions in your
> area of interest?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Kevin
>
> > You have given me the urge to go back and start scanning through the
> early posts.
> >
> > I NEED good info about the best gasifier to build that can be fired with
> real wood blocks that are mostly Southern Yellow Pine from a local truss
> company.
> > First I want to build one sized to run a ten hp cast iron Kohler engine
> on a generator.
> > With what I would learn there I could move on.
> > Maybe a gasifier for my 1939 Pontiac Silverstreak or even my 1975 Jeep
> Cherokee.
> > I also have a 1965 Willys Jeep CJ5 that would like a re-birth as a
> gasoline free ride.
> >
> > Alan Bowen
> > Williamsburg, Michigan
> >
> > Michael Redler wrote: Toby,
> >
> > With all due respect, nearly every discussion group on the Internet has
> > adopted the same opt-out procedure, making it an unwritten rule that the
> > member always has the ability to remove themselves. I would hardly call
> > that a "suggested method".
> >
> > If a member leaves, it would be fine to ask the former member why he/she
> > left so we could all learn from it. However, under no circumstances
> > should it ever be made a condition for leaving.
> >
> > FWIW, I used to be moderately active, making a contribution here and
> > there, when I thought I had something to ask or share with the group.
> > Recent topics like tar cracking and CO2 recycling have turned me into a
> > lurker since I'm not ready for some of the advanced discussions. So, if
> > I were to take a stab at why people are leaving it's because the subject
> > matter has become increasingly advanced and less diverse than I remember
> > from the past (strictly my opinion). I'm sure I'm not the only one
> > struggling to simply get a reliable design for heat or power before
> > going on to peripheral discussions on CO2 recycling (for example).
> > Please don't misunderstand. These topics are important. It's just that
> > some of us may not be ready for it yet. So, I look for other sources
> > which help me with a basic design and the "nuts and bolts" discussions
> > which could help me in my current situation.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Toby Seiler wrote:
> >> Mr. Bowen,
> >>
> >> I'm interested in who is part of the list and why they leave it. The
> controlled nature of exploratory discussion has caused many to leave that
> could contribute immensely to the discussions. In addition to giving
notice
> that they want to be removed from the list, I would like to see a
paragraph
> why they want removed, instead of stealthly slipping away by your
suggested
> method.
> >>
> >> Toby Seiler, Seiler Technical Co.
> >>
> >>
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