[Gasification] Biogas from Pasture and second gen and GTL

Mark Ludlow mark at ludlow.com
Sat Apr 12 15:07:32 CDT 2008


Maybe I'm confused also, but fermentation does not necessarily imply methane
production. It depends on the microbe. Methanogenic (familiar in ruminants)
bacteria produce CH4 and CO2; other fermentations (with Lactobacillus),
produce lactic acid; still other breakdowns produce ammonia if there are
amines such as proteins (i.e. chlorophylls) present.

There's no single cascade from living matter to simple molecules.

Mark

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[mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Rolf Uhle
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] Biogas from Pasture and second gen and GTL

Now  I´m confused: 
What are we talking about, combustion (cigar, smoldering) or fermentation ( 
biogas) ?
Rolf

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> Datum: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:51:27 -0500 (CDT)
> Von: katahdinenergyworks at verizon.net
> An: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' 
> <gasification at listserv.repp.org>, Winfried Rijssenbeek 
> <w.rijssenbeek at rrenergy.nl>
> Betreff: Re: [Gasification] Biogas from Pasture and second gen and GTL
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>             Maine is covered with perhaps hundreds of thousands of acres 
> of fallow 'hayfield', either cut for hay; or cut to keep it from 
> returning into forest; or in a semi forest stage, i.e. brush.
> 
> As a result Maine has has thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of large 
> hay 'rolls' decomposing in fields, unsold. There are even more wrapped in 
> plastic waiting to be sold.
> 
> One reaction is a large biomass boiler that consumes an entire haybale 
> over the course of a week...kinda burns like a cigar from one end to the 
> other!
> 
> As we all know the BTU content of Hay is very large.
> 
> I've put together an integrated system for operating an integrated solid 
> & liquid waste digester, that uses the spent effluent as a fertilizer on 
> these hay fields; in essence creating a renewable resource.
> 
> Plastic bailing solves the storage problem.
> 
> We're lucky to have Navy base in the final stages of closing and the 
> potential for creating this kind of trash to energy cycle using 
> hay(grasses, biomass) in the loop.
> 
> ..just tossing out the concept...
> 
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