[Gasification] Precer Biomass Hybrid Car (Stirling Engine)

Mark Ludlow mark at ludlow.com
Wed Feb 6 22:44:14 CST 2008


List,

Much to everyone's surprise, oil prices are sliding downward. Sure, it's
only a temporary phenomenon, but by Kevin's analysis it displaces the
attractive price point of any kind of alternative solution further into
future.

The Precer Stirling vehicle wins points on purely aesthetic grounds; it is
nicely packaged and has the potential of capturing the public's imagination.
It's uncomfortable to comprehend that the zenith of woodgas development may
have been realized in war-time, sixty-years ago. What besides an equivalent
calamity could alter the economics of energy in today's world?

I loved Benjamin's video link to the clay gasifier. The developed world
could ship automotive engines to developing countries for free; never mind
that their lives would be shortened due to imperfect gasification
technology--the average American vehicle has only a 12-year lifespan.
Perhaps they could spend an additional year in useful service on their way
to an Asian smelter. A hair dryer, some low-fired mud and a reclaimed junker
engine providing power for lighting, water pumping or (!) televisions? Neat!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
[mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Chisholm
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:42 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Precer Biomass Hybrid Car (Stirling Engine)

Dear Tom

Assuming about 38 kw-hr per US Gallon, and gasoline at say $3 per 
gallon, then gasoline cost would be about $.12 per kw-hr.

$.31/kw-hr works out to about $11.78 per US Gallon of gasoline, or about 
$11.78/3.8 =$US3.10 per litre

Are there any places where gasoline is close to $3 per litre? Here in 
Nova Scotia, gasoline is presently about $C1.15 per litre.

Best wishes,

Kevin

Tom Miles wrote:
> I thought the pellet fueled Stirling ultimately moving an attractive
vehicle
> was a good trick which is why I posted the link. 
>
> They imply from their website that they will also apply this to home power
> generation. If you buy wood pellets for $5/40 lb bag and the fuel to
> electricity conversion is 17% then the fuel cost $0.31/kWh. Add the cost
of
> the generator. . .but it's fun!
>
> Tom  
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org [mailto:gasification-
>> bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Brockmeyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:58 PM
>> To: Lindgard Gasta; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Precer Biomass Hybrid Car (Stirling Engine)
>>
>> Dear Lindgard
>>
>> That means, in my view, an electrical driven car, where the batteries
>> are
>> recharged with a Stirling engine intead of solar pannel or
>> stationary-electric plug.
>> The merit is in the Stirling-eng., and not in the application.
>> I agree with your comment.
>>
>> Brockmeyer
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "lindgard gasta" <lindgardgasta at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification"
>> <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Precer Biomass Hybrid Car (Stirling Engine)
>>
>>
>> | The concept is a little bit complicated; the Stirling engine drives a
>> generator (alternator); the gen. supplies a battery; the battery
>> supplies an
>> electrical engine and that el. engine drives the car.
>> |
>> |  In my understanding a Stirling engines rpm is not easy to change,
>> therefore that concept.
>> |
>> |  Still going on.
>> |
>> |  Finnpower
>> |
>> |
>> | Mike Norris <mnorris at dekaresearch.com> wrote:  Try the following
>> link. The
>> address was cut into pieces in the previous postings.
>> |
>> |
>> http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=80012&a=9
>> 60522
>>     
>
>
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