[Gasification] Corrupt government, conspiracy, new world order, no future.

gfwhell at aol.com gfwhell at aol.com
Mon Mar 3 20:01:25 CST 2008


I thought it only appropriate to add this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/85956/Russia-Proves-Peak-Oil-is-a-Misleading-Zionist-Scam. Which suggests that oil is the main world currency, which would be greatly devalued by a glut. Hence the removal of Iraq as an oil producer, together with, ?maintaining the capping of many U.S. wells while the price of oil has rises 1,000%. It does not take a Quantum Mechanic to realise there is sculduggery afoot.
They did it with diamonds why not oil?

GF


-----Original Message-----
From: Kenn Johnsen <kennj at webspeed.dk>
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Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Corrupt government, conspiracy, new world order, no future.




Den 03/03/2008 kl. 14.24 skrev Kenn Johnsen:

>
> Den 02/03/2008 kl. 15.26 skrev MMBTUPR at aol.com:
>
>>                from          Lewis L Smith
>>
>> It will be interesting to see how Sen. Murkowski weighs in on the  
>> "hidden" oil reserves in Alaska.
>>
>> In the meantime, I must protest "kennj's" mode of discourse. It is  
>> unprofessional and not acceptable in a professional discussion group.
>>
> That is what I feel about it, and I base it on the first prediction  
> were around the first world war, and then 1927......1937........and  
> so on till to day.....2002.......4.......12.....20.......that is not  
> a professional way.....rather      a immature way.......those  
> prediction are pure rubbish.
>
>
>> Let us define a geological formation as a continuous region of  
>> subsurface rock which was produced by the same historic geological  
>> event, regardless of the time span involved. Let us define an oil  
>> reservoir as a subregion within that formation containing crude oil  
>> distributed in one or more fields subject to a common pressure  
>> gradient.
>>
>  If I understand this right, you say the oil is of biotic origin,  
> that is wrong.....and you should know that.
>
>
>> It is a well known fact that production from any reservoir will  
>> rise from an initial value to a peak or plateau and then descend to  
>> a point where it is no longer economically attractive, leaving MOST  
>> of the oil in the ground !  In the mode of descent, it is often  
>> necessary to inject some other material into the reservoir [ very  
>> carefully ] in order to maintain a pressure adequate to lift the  
>> oil to the surface. These materials include CO2, fresh water,  
>> natural gas, nitrogen and salt water. And if some of the water  
>> comes back up with the crude, it must be separated from the latter.  
>> All of this of course takes energy.
>>
>> For example, the Ghawar collection of reservoirs in Saudi Arabia  
>> requires the injection of 32 barrels of sea water to bring up 100  
>> barrels of crude. This collection produces about six percent of  
>> World crude-oil production.
>>
>> In the 20th Century, there were several arguments at different  
>> times over when World production would peak. Their principal focus  
>> was on techniques of projecting future production from active  
>> reservoirs, based on past history and estimates of reserves in the  
>> ground. In that sense at least, one could say that the arguments  
>> were about some "theory of peak oil"  [ in the street or judicial  
>> sense of "theory", not the scientific
>> sense. ] .
>>
>> This time things are different. In the 1990's, Matthew Simmons, an  
>> engineer formerly employed by Saudi Aramco, began to have doubts  
>> about some of the statements Saudi engineers were making about the  
>> condition of Saudi reservoirs. He read some 200 papers presented by  
>> Saudi engineers at international confabs, confirmed his suspicions  
>> and then wrote a book, Twilight in the Desert, or something to that  
>> effect.
>>
>> That stirred people up, and the more knowledgeable among them began  
>> to make their own calculations, in many cases without using data  
>> for reserves, which more than any other industry data, are full of  
>> errors, omissions and bald-faced lies. Ironically this omission  
>> probably makes their calculations more reliable !
>>
>> Because of the deficiencies in production data, much of which is  
>> often a "state secret" at the reservoir level, they came up with  
>> different dates, like "already yet" [ 2004 ] and "far away" [ 2032  
>> per Exxon/Mobil ]. Having waded through quite a few of these  
>> estimates, it is my professional opinion as an energy economist  
>> that it is impossible to pinpoint the peak year with an acceptable  
>> degree of accuracy. However, we can say that there is a 90% chance  
>> that an unsurpassable peak in World production of crude oil will  
>> occur by 2020, if not earlier.
>
>
> How do you know how much oil there is, in the earth......how much  
> there are produced in the earth, no ones knows....neather you or me.
>
>
>> Since this is only 12 years away and so well within the horizon of  
>> many strategic planners, it behooves them to make contingency  
>> plans, at the very least. From their size, the "hidden" Alaska  
>> reserves [ if they are of the magnitude alleged ] may push that  
>> fatal year a few more years into the future, but it is my guess is  
>> that it will not get it outside the planning horizons of most  
>> strategic planners. So again, at the very least, some serious  
>> contingency planning is called for, even if you side with Cambridge  
>> Energy Research Associates, Exxon/Mobil, the Energy Information and  
>> other perpetual optimists.
>>
>> In addition, I would like to point out two factors which are  
>> usually omitted in discussions of peak oil but which would tend to  
>> make the peak year come sooner rather than later.
>>
>> [1]     The energy used to put a marketable liquid in a tank on the  
>> surface. We have already mentioned the injection of material into  
>> aging reservoirs, examples of which are Ghawar in Saudi Arabia and  
>> Cantrell in Mexico, already in decline despite injection. In  
>> addition, there is the energy required to obtain oil from  
>> unconventional sources, such as tar sands, which can run to the  
>> equivalent of 35-45% of the potential energy in the marketable oil  
>> produced.
>>
>> Once this energy consumption could be safely ignored. Now it  
>> cannot. Yet none of it is deducted from published figures, either  
>> for reserves or for production. So even if statistics for  
>> production and reserves of crude oil were all accurate and honest  
>> [ which they are definitely not ]  they would be seriously  
>> overestimated, in terms of what is available for conversion into  
>> salable products.
>>
>> [2]     The rising consumption of energy is oil-producing  
>> countries. Iran, for example is already an importer of gasoline,  
>> because refinery expansion cannot keep up with the increase in  
>> domestic demand !  And in Qatar, whose gas is often seen as the  
>> "white knight" which will save oil consumers from their folly, much  
>> of the projected increase in production is already committed to  
>> 15,000 luxury condominiums, an ammonia plant, a fertilizer plant, a  
>> steel plant and so on.
>>
>> So the matter of peak oil is a difficult one, but it is definitely  
>> not "rubbish". An unsurpassable peak in World crude-oil production  
>> is coming. The only question is when. Since the odds are that  
>> "when" is within the planning horizons of most of the people who  
>> make investment and/or political decisions, it makes sense for  
>> concerned parties to stop insulting other participants in the  
>> discussion and do some serious contingency planning.
>
>
> What is this planning about, cutting the use of oil........when we  
> have oil enough for hundreds of years.........that is the wrong way  
> going about it.......on the contrary, we should use more..........so  
> there can be capital and man power invested in new form of energy,  
> what ever that will be.
>>
>> Sincerely.  ###
>>
>>
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