[Gasification] Corrupt government, conspiracy, new world order, no future.
gfwhell at aol.com
gfwhell at aol.com
Mon Mar 3 20:01:25 CST 2008
I thought it only appropriate to add this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/85956/Russia-Proves-Peak-Oil-is-a-Misleading-Zionist-Scam. Which suggests that oil is the main world currency, which would be greatly devalued by a glut. Hence the removal of Iraq as an oil producer, together with, ?maintaining the capping of many U.S. wells while the price of oil has rises 1,000%. It does not take a Quantum Mechanic to realise there is sculduggery afoot.
They did it with diamonds why not oil?
GF
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenn Johnsen <kennj at webspeed.dk>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Corrupt government, conspiracy, new world order, no future.
Den 03/03/2008 kl. 14.24 skrev Kenn Johnsen:
>
> Den 02/03/2008 kl. 15.26 skrev MMBTUPR at aol.com:
>
>> from Lewis L Smith
>>
>> It will be interesting to see how Sen. Murkowski weighs in on the
>> "hidden" oil reserves in Alaska.
>>
>> In the meantime, I must protest "kennj's" mode of discourse. It is
>> unprofessional and not acceptable in a professional discussion group.
>>
> That is what I feel about it, and I base it on the first prediction
> were around the first world war, and then 1927......1937........and
> so on till to day.....2002.......4.......12.....20.......that is not
> a professional way.....rather a immature way.......those
> prediction are pure rubbish.
>
>
>> Let us define a geological formation as a continuous region of
>> subsurface rock which was produced by the same historic geological
>> event, regardless of the time span involved. Let us define an oil
>> reservoir as a subregion within that formation containing crude oil
>> distributed in one or more fields subject to a common pressure
>> gradient.
>>
> If I understand this right, you say the oil is of biotic origin,
> that is wrong.....and you should know that.
>
>
>> It is a well known fact that production from any reservoir will
>> rise from an initial value to a peak or plateau and then descend to
>> a point where it is no longer economically attractive, leaving MOST
>> of the oil in the ground ! In the mode of descent, it is often
>> necessary to inject some other material into the reservoir [ very
>> carefully ] in order to maintain a pressure adequate to lift the
>> oil to the surface. These materials include CO2, fresh water,
>> natural gas, nitrogen and salt water. And if some of the water
>> comes back up with the crude, it must be separated from the latter.
>> All of this of course takes energy.
>>
>> For example, the Ghawar collection of reservoirs in Saudi Arabia
>> requires the injection of 32 barrels of sea water to bring up 100
>> barrels of crude. This collection produces about six percent of
>> World crude-oil production.
>>
>> In the 20th Century, there were several arguments at different
>> times over when World production would peak. Their principal focus
>> was on techniques of projecting future production from active
>> reservoirs, based on past history and estimates of reserves in the
>> ground. In that sense at least, one could say that the arguments
>> were about some "theory of peak oil" [ in the street or judicial
>> sense of "theory", not the scientific
>> sense. ] .
>>
>> This time things are different. In the 1990's, Matthew Simmons, an
>> engineer formerly employed by Saudi Aramco, began to have doubts
>> about some of the statements Saudi engineers were making about the
>> condition of Saudi reservoirs. He read some 200 papers presented by
>> Saudi engineers at international confabs, confirmed his suspicions
>> and then wrote a book, Twilight in the Desert, or something to that
>> effect.
>>
>> That stirred people up, and the more knowledgeable among them began
>> to make their own calculations, in many cases without using data
>> for reserves, which more than any other industry data, are full of
>> errors, omissions and bald-faced lies. Ironically this omission
>> probably makes their calculations more reliable !
>>
>> Because of the deficiencies in production data, much of which is
>> often a "state secret" at the reservoir level, they came up with
>> different dates, like "already yet" [ 2004 ] and "far away" [ 2032
>> per Exxon/Mobil ]. Having waded through quite a few of these
>> estimates, it is my professional opinion as an energy economist
>> that it is impossible to pinpoint the peak year with an acceptable
>> degree of accuracy. However, we can say that there is a 90% chance
>> that an unsurpassable peak in World production of crude oil will
>> occur by 2020, if not earlier.
>
>
> How do you know how much oil there is, in the earth......how much
> there are produced in the earth, no ones knows....neather you or me.
>
>
>> Since this is only 12 years away and so well within the horizon of
>> many strategic planners, it behooves them to make contingency
>> plans, at the very least. From their size, the "hidden" Alaska
>> reserves [ if they are of the magnitude alleged ] may push that
>> fatal year a few more years into the future, but it is my guess is
>> that it will not get it outside the planning horizons of most
>> strategic planners. So again, at the very least, some serious
>> contingency planning is called for, even if you side with Cambridge
>> Energy Research Associates, Exxon/Mobil, the Energy Information and
>> other perpetual optimists.
>>
>> In addition, I would like to point out two factors which are
>> usually omitted in discussions of peak oil but which would tend to
>> make the peak year come sooner rather than later.
>>
>> [1] The energy used to put a marketable liquid in a tank on the
>> surface. We have already mentioned the injection of material into
>> aging reservoirs, examples of which are Ghawar in Saudi Arabia and
>> Cantrell in Mexico, already in decline despite injection. In
>> addition, there is the energy required to obtain oil from
>> unconventional sources, such as tar sands, which can run to the
>> equivalent of 35-45% of the potential energy in the marketable oil
>> produced.
>>
>> Once this energy consumption could be safely ignored. Now it
>> cannot. Yet none of it is deducted from published figures, either
>> for reserves or for production. So even if statistics for
>> production and reserves of crude oil were all accurate and honest
>> [ which they are definitely not ] they would be seriously
>> overestimated, in terms of what is available for conversion into
>> salable products.
>>
>> [2] The rising consumption of energy is oil-producing
>> countries. Iran, for example is already an importer of gasoline,
>> because refinery expansion cannot keep up with the increase in
>> domestic demand ! And in Qatar, whose gas is often seen as the
>> "white knight" which will save oil consumers from their folly, much
>> of the projected increase in production is already committed to
>> 15,000 luxury condominiums, an ammonia plant, a fertilizer plant, a
>> steel plant and so on.
>>
>> So the matter of peak oil is a difficult one, but it is definitely
>> not "rubbish". An unsurpassable peak in World crude-oil production
>> is coming. The only question is when. Since the odds are that
>> "when" is within the planning horizons of most of the people who
>> make investment and/or political decisions, it makes sense for
>> concerned parties to stop insulting other participants in the
>> discussion and do some serious contingency planning.
>
>
> What is this planning about, cutting the use of oil........when we
> have oil enough for hundreds of years.........that is the wrong way
> going about it.......on the contrary, we should use more..........so
> there can be capital and man power invested in new form of energy,
> what ever that will be.
>>
>> Sincerely. ###
>>
>>
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