[Gasification] NOW Temperature Monitors Report Widespread Global Cooling
Greg and April
gregandapril at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 17 15:55:40 CDT 2008
There was a NOVA program that covered part of it, basically all the
contrails build up during the day, holding in the heat at night.
During the 9/11 timeframe when no commercial jets were flying, there was a
3-5* F drop in the nightly low temperature, when compared to the days before
the 9/11 No Fly restriction and the days after.
I wonder if anyone has done a direct comparison - the average daily
temperature vs. the average number of flights during the day.
Greg H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chisholm" <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
To: <fjheller at verizon.net>; "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and
gasification" <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 14:19
Subject: Re: [Gasification] NOW Temperature Monitors Report Widespread
Global Cooling
> Dear Frank
>
> Wow!! What a neat trick! Carefully placing the Sampling Stations to get
> the answers they wanted! (Or didn't want!)
>
> I haven't read through the IPCC report in its entirity. Would you know
> if the issue of jet plane flight was considered in the assessment? If
> so, what weight was it given?
>
> I recall seeing someplace that on the few days after 9/11, when all jet
> flight was banned, that there was an immediate and significant change in
> temperature over the US. I don't recall if the effect was a DROP in
> temperature, because of Albedo Effect, or a RISE in temperature, because
> of CO2 and a "warming cloud cover effect." Have you seen reference to
> this observation? If so was tehre a warming or cooling effect?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Kevin
>
> Katahdin Energy Works wrote:
>> I got started in all of this a long time ago in the early 70's when I was
>> an
>> environmental policy analyst at the National League of Cities/U.S.
>> conference of Mayors working on our response to changes in Sen. Muskie's
>> CLEAN AIR LEGISLATION.
>>
>> By change air pollution monitoring stations around to take best advantage
>> of
>> the urban heat plumes you can find a lot of particulates in the
>> surrounding
>> suburbs and gaseous pollution in the city getting sucked in from suburban
>> highways. Street level monitoring in urban cores yields very different
>> results from the same level in a suburb.
>>
>> By rearranging the monitoring stations, Large cities got 'fairer'
>> treatment
>> from EPA.
>>
>> So When KYOTO's first recommendations came out; I looked at the sampling
>> points and monitoring methodology, and then the models for extrapolating
>> out
>> a GLOBAL generalization. Huge ozone-like holes suddenly
>> appeared---nothing
>> from the Southern Hemisphere, nothing from the vast southern oceans,
>> nothing
>> from outer space when the Russians have been parked for decades trying to
>> 'see' through the growing maze of contrails; just US source data and a
>> handful of European universities....and a decided tact to blame large US
>> energy corporations with a road map laced with CO2 lines.
>>
>> Few people fully understand the nature of diurnal temperatures or the
>> differential between radiative heating by day, and cooling at night and
>> the
>> atmospheric factors which prevent adequate cooling...even when you
>> explain
>> it, they glaze over and prefer evil EXXON stories of corporate greed
>> instead
>> of true greenhouse effects and the role frozen water vapour plays in
>> reflecting heat back to earth.
>>
>> I am not alone in noting how the recorded rise in temps over Northern
>> hemisphere air corridors coincides rather nicely with the rise in jet
>> plane
>> traffic in them...the graphs 'nest' rather nicely; nor am I the only one
>> to
>> note the near absence of CO2 in the upper atmosphere's 'greenhouse'
>> layer.
>>
>> And these contrails are man made
>>
>> Frank J. Heller, MPA
>> KATAHDIN ENERGY WORKS
>> 12 Belmont St.
>> Brunswick, ME 04011-3004
>> 207.729.6090
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/fjheller/
>>
>>
>
>
>
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