[Gasification] Aviation's role in globalwarming...9/11 aftermath proves theories on H20 in contrailsin dramatic fashion.

Ken Basterfield ken at basterfield.com
Sat Mar 22 09:52:48 CDT 2008


No it is not basic Diesel, it is Kerosene.
Ken



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-----Original Message-----
From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
[mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Greg and April
Sent: 21 March 2008 14:33
To: fjheller at verizon.net; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Aviation's role in globalwarming...9/11
aftermath proves theories on H20 in contrailsin dramatic fashion.


Jet fuel at it's most basic, is ultra high quality diesel, with additives 
added to it to do various things - like detergents to keep the system clean,

and as far as commercial aviation is concerned to minimize the risk of fire 
in a crash.

The problem with biological diesel fuels, is that they have very poor cold 
weather characteristics- something that due to the altitude, jet's face all 
day, every day while they are flying.

Another factor, is that biological fuels tend to have a lower BTU value than

their fossil fuel counterparts - which means that more fuel has to be 
carried for a given distance traveled - thus a lower fuel economy ( which 
can be a major factor in flight operations ).


Personally, I would like to see commercial flying cut back and the return of

commercial train traffic ( which is more fuel efficient anyway ) - steam 
engines based on gasification tech anyone?


Greg H.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katahdin Energy Works" <KatahdinEnergyWorks at verizon.net>
To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" 
<gasification at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:57
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Aviation's role in global warming...9/11 
aftermath proves theories on H20 in contrails in dramatic fashion.


> Interestingly, this discussion dovetails nicely with Branson's effort 
> to make bio-jet fuels and burn them in Low Emissions Engines.
>
> Has anyone on here been involved in jet bio-fuel refineries of some 
> kind? ...there's that $25m. prize to think about.
>
> Lot of the technical papers are shrouded in secrecy...CIA efforts at
> 'cloud
> making' to affect climate and obscure snoopy satellites; as well as the 
> Air
> Force's efforts at obscuring Stealth fighter  & B2 bomber contrails to
> prevent either ground or satellite tracking. It also touches on particle
> emissions as well as gas composition.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Frank J. Heller, MPA
> KATAHDIN ENERGY WORKS
> 12 Belmont St.
> Brunswick, ME 04011-3004
> 207.729.6090
> http://mysite.verizon.net/fjheller/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org
> [mailto:gasification-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Greg and
> April
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: fjheller at verizon.net; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Aviation's role in global warming...9/11
> aftermath proves theories on H20 in contrails in dramatic fashion.
>
> Ah Frank,
>
>
> Just in case you haven't noticed, CO2 doesn't make contrails - it's 
> the water vapor in the jet exhaust that makes the contrails, and 
> everyone knows
> that water vapor is a stronger greenhouse gas than CO2.    Contrails are
>
>
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