[Gasification] Aviation'sroleinglobalwarming...9/11 aftermathproves theoriesonH20incontrailsin dramatic fashion.

Kenn Johnsen kennj at webspeed.dk
Sun Mar 23 20:52:51 CDT 2008


What would the cost be in a mobile home, there you can have your dog,  
your wife, your kids, your boots, and whatever you need.



Den 24/03/2008 kl. 02.16 skrev Max Kennedy:

> Although the fuel efficiency of trains is much better have you  
> priced them lately?  I am planning a trip from NE Ontario to the  
> Okanogan region of British Columbia this summer and compared the 2.  
> Plane is $400-500 return each depending on day of the week, I can  
> take my dogs thereby avoiding kenneling costs and it gets you there  
> in a few hours.  Train is $2700 ONE WAY for the regular seats (3 day  
> trip), $3400 for a berth and $4200 for a private sleeper.  I can't  
> take the dogs on the train, according to Via and would have to add  
> another $600+ for a 2 week stay in a kennel.  That makes a 2 week  
> trip for 2 people cost a minimum $12000 return not including  
> expenses while there.  This is the same cost as an all inclusive,  
> moderately expensive balcony suite on an upscale cruise ship for the  
> same period of time including the airfair.  I know this because I  
> had one booked for this summer before throwing a blood clot in the  
> lung 3 weeks ago and having to cancel!
> The trip to BC is sort of a replacement for the big 5 yr anniversary  
> cruise.  As long as this kind of cost imbalance exists trains will  
> not be the preferred mode of travel no matter how efficient they  
> are!  Additionally theyare never on time because freight makes more  
> money and any time there is a conflict the passenger train stops and  
> sits on a siding waiting for the freight to go by.  Between here,  
> Kirkland Lake, and Toronto, a matter of about 700km, the train is  
> alawys at least an hour late, I can only imagine what a tip of  
> thousands of kilometers would mean in delays.  As long as planes can  
> afford to fly trains will not be competition.  Maybe someone with  
> clout should talk to the train companies.  Forgive my rant but  
> trains are a bit of a sore point right now.
>
> Max K.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Greg and April <gregandapril at earthlink.net>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at listserv.repp.org 
> >
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:18:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Aviation'sroleinglobalwarming...9/11  
> aftermathproves theoriesonH20incontrailsin dramatic fashion.
>
> OTOH, allot of aircraft are wasting fuel by making short hops
> of less than 100 miles - they barley get to cruising altitude and  
> they are
> descending to land.    In this case perhaps a ground based transport  
> like
> high speed train linking cities that close to one major airport, is  
> the
> better solution.
>
> Just remember, that as far as fuel efficiency is concerned ( passenger
> miles ), flying is the most inefficient, and taking the train, is  
> better
> than even the bus.
>
>
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