[Gasification] Aviation'sroleinglobalwarming...9/11 aftermathproves theoriesonH20incontrailsin dramatic fashion.
Kenn Johnsen
kennj at webspeed.dk
Sun Mar 23 20:52:51 CDT 2008
What would the cost be in a mobile home, there you can have your dog,
your wife, your kids, your boots, and whatever you need.
Den 24/03/2008 kl. 02.16 skrev Max Kennedy:
> Although the fuel efficiency of trains is much better have you
> priced them lately? I am planning a trip from NE Ontario to the
> Okanogan region of British Columbia this summer and compared the 2.
> Plane is $400-500 return each depending on day of the week, I can
> take my dogs thereby avoiding kenneling costs and it gets you there
> in a few hours. Train is $2700 ONE WAY for the regular seats (3 day
> trip), $3400 for a berth and $4200 for a private sleeper. I can't
> take the dogs on the train, according to Via and would have to add
> another $600+ for a 2 week stay in a kennel. That makes a 2 week
> trip for 2 people cost a minimum $12000 return not including
> expenses while there. This is the same cost as an all inclusive,
> moderately expensive balcony suite on an upscale cruise ship for the
> same period of time including the airfair. I know this because I
> had one booked for this summer before throwing a blood clot in the
> lung 3 weeks ago and having to cancel!
> The trip to BC is sort of a replacement for the big 5 yr anniversary
> cruise. As long as this kind of cost imbalance exists trains will
> not be the preferred mode of travel no matter how efficient they
> are! Additionally theyare never on time because freight makes more
> money and any time there is a conflict the passenger train stops and
> sits on a siding waiting for the freight to go by. Between here,
> Kirkland Lake, and Toronto, a matter of about 700km, the train is
> alawys at least an hour late, I can only imagine what a tip of
> thousands of kilometers would mean in delays. As long as planes can
> afford to fly trains will not be competition. Maybe someone with
> clout should talk to the train companies. Forgive my rant but
> trains are a bit of a sore point right now.
>
> Max K.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Greg and April <gregandapril at earthlink.net>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at listserv.repp.org
> >
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:18:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Aviation'sroleinglobalwarming...9/11
> aftermathproves theoriesonH20incontrailsin dramatic fashion.
>
> OTOH, allot of aircraft are wasting fuel by making short hops
> of less than 100 miles - they barley get to cruising altitude and
> they are
> descending to land. In this case perhaps a ground based transport
> like
> high speed train linking cities that close to one major airport, is
> the
> better solution.
>
> Just remember, that as far as fuel efficiency is concerned ( passenger
> miles ), flying is the most inefficient, and taking the train, is
> better
> than even the bus.
>
>
>
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