[Gasification] WET ETHANOL IN DIESEL ENGINES

[Greg and April]

Hmm.....

Would that be Society of Automotive Engineers?    If so, do you have a good 
link to the particular reports you are referring to?

In return, would you consider reading:
#1 " Makin' It On The Farm " ( by Micki Nellis - pg 50, Using Alcohol in 
Diesel Engines ). #2 " Methanol " ( by Perry and Perry - pgs 109-110 Diesel 
Fuel Blends ).
#3 " Methanol Production and Use ( edited by Cheng and Kung - pgs 247 - 249 
Methanol In Heavy-Duty Engines ) ?

In a nut shell they get around low cetane issues, by using blends and other 
means.

In #1 80% Ethanol and 20% Vegetable oil, and modification of the fuel 
injection system " to accommodate the different density of fuel ".
In #2 ( methanol ) the use of AVOCET, controlling cylinder temps, injecting 
the fuel over a longer period of time.
In #3 ( methanol ) the use of AVOCET or M85 blend, increasing compression to 
 >22:1 ( the Los Angeles MTA, used 12 busses that had engines of 23:1 
compression, running on M100 for several years )

Greg H.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MDK" <bearcreek at joimail.com>
To: <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:51
Subject: Re: [Gasification] WET ETHANOL IN DIESEL ENGINES


>
> Read the SAE reports. This isn't meant to be sarcastic, but may be the 
> best way to for you to find  & understand. It can help eliminate the 
> hearsay factor & misunderstands the seem to be so widespread on the inet.
>
> BTE is brake thermal efficiency. It is the measure, in percent, of how 
> many of the
> btus input into an engine are converted to power output.
>
> Does anyone have what the bte of producer gas is in various engines? I 
> have looked
> for it on & off, but have never seen published data. I have seen data the 
> gives
> one the general idea for the overall process, but not within the engine 
> only.
>
> Martin
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Greg and April <gregandapril at earthlink.net>
>>Sent: May 23, 2008 8:01 AM
>>To: MDK <bearcreek at joimail.com>, Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and 
>>gasification <gasification at listserv.repp.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Gasification] WET ETHANOL IN DIESEL ENGINES
>>
>>Who said you need to reshape the chamber to prevent detonation???
>>
>>BTE?    Sorry, would you clarify that ?    I just woke up and can't figure
>>out what it is.
>>
>>Greg H.
>>
>
>
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