[Greenbuilding] ***Forest Stewardship Council: A listoftheirlatest lying certifications!***

[George J. Nesbitt]

    I think with our current rate of population and consumption increase 
there is no way it can be met with FSC (despite it's flaws) or recycled 
lumber, or any single solution. With massive reductions which I think 
aren't that hard to achieve, sustainable materials and energy will be 
more viable and credible, and be able to satisfy a much larger part of 
the demand, and ultimate has to satisfy all of it, with a variety of 
solutions.


Alan Abrams wrote:

>I believe that if the creation of sustainable housing is to become a
>reality, to become mainstream, to happen at a scale that will support the
>needs of the world, then we **need** sustainable materials via the "gaping
>maw" of the "sleek, centralized industrial products chain."  If so, then,
>imho, processes like FS certification need to be fixed, to become legit.
>Perhaps FSC needs a good bashing, but does that mean trashing it as well?  
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>Even to do the small scale projects my company builds, even with a
>"not-so-big" approach, even with advanced framing techniques and engineered
>products, we still need a reliable source of high quality lumber, delivered
>to the site, on schedule, at some rational cost.  
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>I beat my brains out looking for sustainable materials that perform as well
>as conventional ones, at something resembling a commensurate cost, that are
>available next week, not 12 weeks from now, maybe, if the company is still
>in business (read my comments on this listserve from 2-3 mos ago on Crystal
>cabinets made with the elusive Woodstalk).  
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>What it boils down to is that the industry as a whole is not yet ready to
>support our needs, not for sustainable lumber, not for recycling of
>construction waste, not for healthy materials, nor a host of other critical
>resources.  I lobby for this every day, to suppliers, local govt officials,
>etc, but we're not there yet.  
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>We **do** need help here.
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>Alan Abrams          
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>>>What's with you?! You should do your own local research, and share it
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>>>your community. Being part of the big, sleek, centralized, industrial
>>>products chain--i.e., corporate economic globalization that gobbles up
>>>global resources--the global commons-- into its gaping maw and spits out
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>>>seemingly endless line of products that you purchase--IS the problem.
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