[Greenbuilding] bio fues and ethanol

[Racheli Gai]

Hi Ron,
Are the soybeans grown organically? - if not, they are not only a  
result of using
the energy of the sun, but also of application of the "Devil's Tea" and  
its by-products,
no?  (And even with organics, use of fuel isn't completely eliminated).

As to my fuel use, I driving a Prius, and my husband rides his bike to  
work.
Most of our home-energy use is covered by our solar panels, and we're  
making
efforts to further reduce out footprint.
One area I've been paying attention to lately is thinking hard how to  
fly less.
Not that I'm a huge traveller, but I'd like to cut down, and when I fly  
- find
ways to compensate.

Best,
Racheli.



On Apr 8, 2007, at 2:36 PM, RONALD CASCIO wrote:

> Agreed. Our vehicular transportation fuel for the last 6 years has been
> biodiesel. We burn about 600 gallons/year since we've moved to a small  
> town
> were we can walk/bike to just about everything we need. Our biodiesel  
> life
> cycle goes like this;
>
>     Farmers within a 120 mile radius capture solar energy with their  
> soybean
> crop, which goes to the Purdue Farms bean crusher 15 miles west of here
> where they harvest the meal of the bean for chicken         feed, then  
> the
> byproduct oil heads 15 miles east where it is processed into biodiesel  
> in
> our town's production facility 1.8 miles from our front door.
>
> Someone kindly explain to me how our use of biodiesel is more  
> destructive
> than the way our civilization has co-opted the hundreds of millions of  
> years
> life cycle of petroleum, it's extraction, shipping, refining, burning  
> and
> it's release of hydrocarbons into the atmosphere... and all the blood
> involved in one way or another.
>
> Sure, biofuels are not a panacea to our transportation fuel dilemma  
> but it
> is a major step in the right direction of the long and hard path we are
> going to have to embark on. The madness of mankind's deadly addiction  
> to the
> Devil's Tea is not an option in my book.
>
> BTW... Dan and Tim Keating, what fuels your cars?
>
>
> Ron Cascio
> Chestnut Creek
> Design/Build/Consult/Develop
> Maryland's Eastern Shore
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve T" <progressivepenguin at gmail.com>
> To: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] bio fues and ethanol
>
>
>> I agree that some can see only black or white when it comes to Green  
>> or
>> Sustainable technology like biofuel, wind power or home building.  It
>> tends
>> to make discussions a little more animated.
>>
>> On 4/8/07, Tim Martens <timandgwen at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys.......no one claimed that biofuels were a panacea. I submit  
>>> though,
>>> that, they are way better than  fossil fuels on so many levels. Your
>>> submissions make people think that bio fuels are bad. If people are
>>> willing
>>> to pay for a commodity, others will do what ever it takes to provide
>>> it.  You don't think that fossil fuel exploration and greenhouse  
>>> gases
>>> might
>>> have displaced or killed a few people?
>>>
>>> With bio fuels, it's not the product but how it's being produced  
>>> that is
>>> causing the problem.  Fossil fuels, on the other hand, are just plain
>>> bad.
>>> At least we are going in the right direction.
>>>
>>> A motorized vehicle-less society....now there's an answer.
>>>
>>> Tim Martens
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