[Greenbuilding] [BULK] Re: removing tar moisture barrier

[Jim Weiler]

Thanks for the warning. I guess I had adequate ventilation (I think I 
ran a fan), or walked outside often enough that it didn't matter. 
Whatever you do, self-monitor to feel healthy; the stuff just felt 
good to me to be around. -Jim

At 11:07 AM -0500 7/23/07, Lawrence Lile wrote:
>Be careful with orange oil with poor ventilation - it is a great 
>solvent, and natural, but at high concentrations it can cause CNS 
>problems.  I floated my way out of an industrial plant after using 
>concentrated orange oil to clean some stuff, and was surprised to 
>see how many pink elephants were operating the machinery and dancing 
>between the pallets.  Not really a good situation. 
>
>--Lawrence
>
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>From: greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org on behalf of Jim Weiler
>Sent: Mon 7/23/2007 10:43 AM
>To: RONALD CASCIO; Jim Weiler; greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org
>Subject: [BULK] Re: [Greenbuilding] removing tar moisture barrier
>
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>At 7:01 AM -0400 7/23/07, RONALD CASCIO wrote:
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weiler" <heavysideways at gmail.com>
>>
>>>As far as that goes, the glycerin byproduct, biodiesel, ordinary
>>>petroleum diesel, gasolene (very dangerous & too volatile), or clean
>>>petroleum-based engine oil will dissolve and pick up the tar mastic.
>>>I just prefer the smell of orange oil if I'm going to provide the
>>>labor in the process. Because it is very labor intensive and I want
>>>to enjoy my labor as much as possible.
>>
>>>   Jim
>>
>>There's a huge difference between glycerin/biodiesel and petroleum
>>distillates in both toxicity and aroma, plus the glycerin is a
>>byproduct that's looking a job to do. I can understand the desire to
>>smell the orange based solvent, which some people have a very
>>negative reaction to, but when talking about green solutions a
>>byproduct that does the job just as well as any other might just be
>>the preferable item, IMHO.
>>
>>Ron
>
>I have no problem with that, just expressing my preferences, which
>are purely personal. The other reason for my post was to point out
>that oil is oil, no matter its source. It used to be that people
>bathed in oil, and considered it good for them. With all the
>additives with toxicity since the beginnings of the industrial
>revolution, it's a good thing to pay attention to what's put into
>various oils, but a blanket fear of oil no matter the source is
>appropriately more prevalent in this modern age. I would certainly
>use the glycerin, if I had access to it, as an under-used (and cheap)
>resource. -Jim
>
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