[Greenbuilding] eco fireplaces

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This Fireplace is EPA approved and legal in California.  What do you think?

http://www.fireplacextrordinair.com/

Steve

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From: sat jiwan ikle-khalsa <satjiwan_khalsa at hotmail.com> 

> 
> I'm kind of with Corwyn on this one. If the owners won't be getting 1/3 (at 
> least) or more of their heat from the fireplace, it should probably be skipped. 
> 
> Educating the clients is a big part of green building. Now, if they're going to 
> get an ambiance fireplace regardless, it'd be good to get a "greener" version. 
> Multifuel pellet stoves (wood pellet, corn, other biomass...) CAN BE more 
> convenient than conventional wood stoves, and hooked up to thermostats/timers. 
> 
> I think it's more about how easily you can get which type of fuel locally. 
> Sustainably grown corn, local wood pellets, local wood...?? 
> -sat jiwan 
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> > 
> > Message: 4 
> > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:05:04 -0400 
> > From: Corwyn 
> > Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] eco fireplaces 
> > To: David Bergman 
> > Cc: Greenbuilding list 
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> > 
> > On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:19, David Bergman wrote: 
> > 
> > > Is there such a thing a an eco fireplace? I'm working on a weekend 
> > > house where we'd like to add one for ambiance (as opposed to for 
> > > utility, though it should of course not waste its heat). I've so far 
> > > been researching efficiently ventilated wood burners (advantages: 
> > > using a more renewable resource than gas, burning cleaner than 
> > > conventional wood fp's), gas burners (cleaner but use a non-renewable 
> > > resource, and not as "cozy' feeling), flue-less Eco-smart alcohol 
> > > burners (potential CO issue? and expensive?), high thermal mass wood 
> > > burners e.g. Tulikivi (wood bruning, expensive?), wood pellet burners 
> > > (pellet supply issue?). 
> > 
> > No, there is no such thing as an eco-ambiance-fireplace. It doesn't 
> > matter how efficiently you burn energy that you don't need. Sorry. 
> > 
> > Thank You Kindly, 
> > 
> > Corwyn 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Corwyn 
> > Kermit didn't know the half of it... 
> > http://www.greenfret.com/ 
> > corwyn at greenfret.com 
> > 
> 
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