[Greenbuilding] Greenbuilding Digest, Vol 20, Issue 38

Haughton, Don dhaughton at mchughconstruction.com
Wed Feb 27 13:29:00 CST 2008


This is being done in California with existing Poo. The slurry is not in
a stove but the microbes that consume and turn the fesses into methane
and use that as a burning fuel. The poo in an incinerator requires too
much energy for what it puts out. Like our ethanol plants in Il. 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: The Hill Furnace (Robert Tom)
   2. Re: An Austrian Pellet Stove (JAY WALSH)


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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:26:55 -0500
From: "Robert Tom" <ArchiLogic at yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] The Hill Furnace
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Norbert Senf <mheat at ...> wrote:

>  Speaking of rocket stoves, here is a really interesting paper about
the  
> Hill furnace ... 1970's:
>  http://www.vtwoodsmoke.org/pdf/Hill-79.pdf


[snip]

You know what I think would be a really interesting stove design ?

One that uses cat and dog doo as fuel and is capable of heating a
800-1600  
sf superinsulated house in a Cold Climate region (ie > 6500 HDD/yr) on
the  
output of 2 pets.

Pets output 365/yr, heating season about less than  1/6th of that so
there  
is 10 months of system downtime annually in which to replenish the fuel

store.

And ideally, there would be minimal handling of the fuel -- scoop once
and  
fuggedaboudit, the biogas that is offgassed being recaptured and stored

automatically, to also be used as fuel in the DooStove.

The fuel is a plentiful and daily renewable resource, unlike most other

fuels.

Got that MeatHook ?  Shall we expect to see a working design from you  
before next winter ?

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=== * ===
Rob Tom
Kanata, Ontario, Canada
< A r c h i L o g i c  at chaffY a h o o  dot  c a >
manually winnow the chaff from my edress in your reply




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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:26:05 -0500
From: "JAY WALSH" <jaywalsh at usa.net>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] An Austrian Pellet Stove
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If you are installing the pellet stove (in the USA) and it will be
inspected
by your local building inspector or fire department it will need to have
the
EPA Emissions label on it. Old stoves (per 1988) or stoves from other
countries cannot be installed without this emissions label. While the
info
below states "wood stoves" pellet stoves fall under this provision as
well.

Source - EPA Web Site ----
Information Resources 
Since 1988, EPA has required manufacturers of wood stoves to certify
that each
model line of wood stoves offered for sale in the United States comply
with
the EPA particulate emissions guidelines in the Clean Air Act.
EPA-certified
wood stoves are cleaner and more efficient than a wood stove
manufactured
before 1988. As part of the certification process, each wood stove model
line
is required to undergo emissions testing in accordance with EPA
Reference
Method 28 and sampling methods 5G or 5H by an EPA-accredited laboratory.
Only
after successfully passing these tests can a wood stove be offered for
sale in
the United States.


Hope this is of some help.

Sincerely,

Jay Walsh

> Hello to all...........
> 
> I have recently acquired (by "gift"  -  and I remember the line about
"beware of Greeks 
> bearing gifts.....) - an Austrian pellet stove that is fairly good
sized,
and is purported to be 
> worth $4,000.
> 
> The label on the back of it says that it is made in Austria by
Hersteller  -
 with the following 
> additional info, which I take to be a model # and a S/N.  
> 
> WFGA P 41605     Fa: RIKA   A-4563  Micheldorf
> Austro Flamm
> A-4631  Krenglbach
> 
> 





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