[Greenbuilding] $99 HPWH: AirTap

Dr. C.F. Vasile gfx-ch at msn.com
Mon Jan 14 09:33:14 CST 2008


Keith: One of our dealers sent me this link http://www.beyondpollution.com/, 
which describes the AirTap water heater add-on. According to their marketing 
literature, after a $300 tax credit, the net cost for the AirTap HPWH system 
is $99. Unlike the HPWH's promoted in the past by DoE & electric utilities, 
it can be used with either gas or electric, tank type water heaters.

Ratings: Max water temp: 132F; Efficiency: 240%; Energy Factor (EF): 2.2 
First Hour Rating (FHR): 42 gallons; Output: 7000 Btu/hr (2kW); Electric 
Service: 120 VAC @ 6 A (720kW).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Winston" <keith at earthsunenergy.com>
Cc: "Greenbuilding Discussion List" <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] All Electric House


> Have you (anyone?) used a heat pump water heater? Which brands? I can
> get the Wattsaver sorta maybe, but I've heard mixed things about it, and
> I've seen and talked with these people also:
>
> http://www.aers.com/etech_residential_water_heating.html
>
> And these folks too:
>
> http://www.nyletherm.com/waterheating.htm
>
> Has anyone actually installed or, better yet, lived with one of these
> yet? I've recommended them before, but I always get antsy recommending
> things I haven't worked with before (though it's almost completely
> inevitable in the technological world today...)
>
> Warmly, Keith
>
>
> Carmine Vasile wrote:
>> Did you consider installing a heat pump water heater with an outside air 
>> supply to provide "free" space cooling. > To: 
>> greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org> From: dantonioli at earthlink.net> Date: 
>> Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:27:30 -0800> Subject: [Greenbuilding] All Electric 
>> House> > I have a customer who is building two new homes in the Oakland 
>> hills. > She wants both to be all-electric and wants to incorporate 
>> solar, > both thermal and photovoltaics.> > Both homes are about to have 
>> the roofs put on. The location is far > away from the gas main and she's 
>> decided that it's too expensive run > and has told the builder to fill in 
>> all the trenches that would have > carried the gas pipes. I told her that 
>> before she makes any decisions > that she need to have the final energy 
>> performance calculated to see > if they'll pass Title 24 minimum 
>> standards (California's energy > code). She's made some very abrupt 
>> decisions and there's a good > chance that she'll have to have the trench 
>> re-dug and the gas line > put in.> > Nonetheless, I told her and her 
>> architect I would be willing to help > as much as the situation permits, 
>> but that they should prepare > themselves for some surprises. (Such as 
>> increasing the size of the pv > system, or having to run the gas line 
>> after all.)> > With a 2.5 to 3.0 KW PV system, and a four module thermal 
>> system > feeding an electric hot water heater, a lot can be accomplished. 
>>  > Unfortunately, she's installing central air heating in both homes, > 
>> and feeding that system with an all electric heater will most likely > 
>> blow the energy draw out the window, even if it's offset with PV. > Does 
>> anyone on the list have experience with "energy efficient all > electric 
>> forced air systems," or is that an oxymoron?> > What about feeding the 
>> heater with a solar air handler? The site has > excellent solar gain; in 
>> fact, if they designed passive solar homes > they could accomplish an 
>> incredible, passive heating system, but > neither she or the architect 
>> thought of it.> > Regardless of what she should have done, she's stuck 
>> with what she > has. And unless we can come up with a truly energy 
>> efficient strategy > for an all electric house then she's very likely 
>> going to have to run > the gas line. (Which, by our current energy 
>> standards, is bogus given > the fact that natural gas is non-renewable, 
>> polluting, and > contributes to global warming. It's hardly "energy 
>> efficient" in the > larger scenario.)> > Dan Antonioli> > 
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