[Greenbuilding] Tata, funny name, un funny topic. (Kirsten A Flynn)

[Curt Sommer]

Yep, isn't it both ironic and hypocritical at the same time, that the 
rest of the world can't live like we do because we're already trashing 
the planet.  Sorry, but we got here first. 

I can already imagine the resentment we'll be feeling once the 
developing world really begins to realize that global oil production has 
peaked and we've consumed the lions share.

Curtis Sommer
Green Energy Solutions, LLC <http://www.greenenergysolution.biz/>
Green Energy for a sustainable future
503.804.7014

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> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:34:52 -0800
> From: Kirsten A Flynn <kir at declan.com>
> Subject: [Greenbuilding] Tata, funny name, un funny topic.
> To: John Porterfield <john_m_porterfield at yahoo.com>
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> I think the main point, and why eco freaks like me have our knickers  
> in a twist over this car, has little to do with whether it is more or  
> less efficient than a Prius.  The thing that frightens me is that if  
> even a fraction of Indians and Chinese can afford this car, even if it  
> is micro emissions, we are in deep (methane producing) poop.
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> The car based North American lifestyle produces a lot more carbon than  
> a more "primitive" lifestyle currently existing in other countries  
> especially China and India.  These two continents also have tremendous  
> population, many of whom have now been exposed to the idea of Western  
> affluence.  (infected with Affluenza)  A recent survey of Chinese  
> youth found that they were very interested in living a green  
> lifestyle, but 84% wanted to get a car first.  I am sure this would be  
> true in India also.
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> This cheap car removes one barrier to these increasingly urbanized,   
> and enormous populations starting to approach western levels of carbon  
> emissions.  Yikes.
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> Lets get a grip on population.  Every citizen of North America, added  
> to every citizen of the EU,  added to every citizen of South America  
> could each and every one of them find a friend in China.  Yikes.
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> Now this is of course a touchy subject, as we have seen at Kyoto, in  
> Bali, and even in the rhetoric of GWB.  Can we make the developing  
> nations cap when we are the "carbon sinners"?  Is it fair to try and  
> regulate a country that is just trying to achieve the health and  
> quality of life for it's citizens that we already have?  I don't know  
> the solutions, and I am not running for public office (thank god).   
> But I am freaked out about cars that are affordable to everyone.
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> Kirsten A Flynn
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> On Jan 12, 2008, at 4:49 PM, John Porterfield wrote:
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