[Greenbuilding] Fwd: Tata, funny name, un funny topic.

RONALD CASCIO roncascio at verizon.net
Fri Jan 18 20:45:27 CST 2008


Here's our plan, which we are half way to completing;

Moved to a small town where we can walk/bike to just about everything we 
need. Fuel our high mileage diesels with biodiesel made at the facility less 
than two miles from our front door, who gets their by-product soy oil from 
the Perdue Farms bean crusher 15 minutes west of here, which gets it's beans 
from farmers within a 100 mile radius.

Now if we can build a passive solar greenhouse at the town's waste water 
treatment plant and grow algae fed with WW nutrients, extract the oils to 
feed the biodesel plant. Run the town's electric diesel generators with that 
biodiesel. Get one of those diesel hybrid plug-ins and charge the batteries 
from roof mounted PVs and/or the town's municipal generator, and fuel the 
car's little back up diesel generator with what we flushed down the tiolet 
last week ...

We'd be pretty far down the road.

Gonna be interesting times ahead.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reuben Deumling" <9watts at gmail.com>
To: "Vadurro, Rob, EMNRD" <rob.vadurro at state.nm.us>
Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Fwd: Tata, funny name, un funny topic.


> we may have to choose:
> Perfecting the car, as most contributors have been arguing, or,
> following Rob's advice, "providing good examples of alternatives to car
> based planning."
>
> I'm with Rob. ... But we have to trust our ingenuity that we can figure 
> out
> how to get along without them cars, and then commit to such a course.
>
> Reuben Deumling
>
> On Jan 18, 2008 8:24 AM, Vadurro, Rob, EMNRD <rob.vadurro at state.nm.us>
> wrote:
>
>> I think the real issue is that the US has, over the last 60+ years,
>> built an infrastructure of roads and vehicles and urban planning that
>> requires its citizenry to own cars and drive them not insignificant
>> distances to conduct their most mundane life activities. India and China
>> still have an infrastructure that does not require automobile use and
>> subsequent carbon pollution. How can we alert China and India that
>> dependency on the auto is not so great? That good urbanism and planning
>> that downplays or eliminate the car is actually better? I don't think it
>> elitism to issue a warning to them, and hopefully provide good examples
>> of alternatives to the car based planning.
>>
>> -Rob Vadurro AIA
>>
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