[Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

RONALD CASCIO roncascio at verizon.net
Fri May 2 12:32:13 CDT 2008


Pre-PD TDI engines (2004) have proven themselves to perform well on quality 
B100 (100% biodiesel). The newer generation PD TDIs, with their extremely 
high pressure fuel injection systems, have yet to prove themselves in the 
short time they have been available. My hat is off to anyone burning high 
quality B100 in a PD TDI for breaking trail and being a guinea pig.

"Veggie diesel"? If by this you mean SVO (Straight Vegetable Oil) or WVO 
(Waste Vegetable Oil) I'd personally say stay away from these forms of fuel 
in any of the newer generation high pressure fuel injection engines, unless 
you install a very expensive Elsbett conversion system. And still I'd not do 
it. The older Mercedes Benzes run well on straight oil, as long as 
everything is done just right.

But that's just my opinion.


Ron




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Holstine" <jason at amicusgreen.com>
Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?


> So what's the word on the new TDI's ability to take biodiesel and veggie
> diesel?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org
> [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin 
> Pratt
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:18 AM
> To: RONALD CASCIO
> Cc: greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?
>
>>  You might want to bring yourself up to speed on modern diesel
>> technology Ben, and the difference between horsepower (gasoline) and
> torque (diesel).
>>
>>  Ron
>
> The 2008 TDi is much more powerful and cleaner--but the gas mileage is far
> worse than the older models. I was talking about 2003 vintage VW TDI, 
> which
> is slow (0-60 12.5 seconds), and dirty.
>    The problem with the new jetta is that the mileage is, at best, 25%
> better than gas cars of the same size and power, and you are paying 25% 
> more
> for fuel. Additionally, you pay around 2K more for a diesel model. If
> volkwagen had used their new cleaner technology, and optimized mileage and
> not power the car would make logical and economical sense.
>   -Ben
> PS  I do have some personal experience too. I used to commute with a guy 
> who
> drove a 2003 tdi beetle. It was slow, unreliable, slow starting in winter,
> and had numerous problems which were expensive to fix. He got rid of it.
>
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