[Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

Fri May 2 17:50:42 CDT 2008

Ronald,

I'm curious why you feel that high pressure fuel rails
should be avoided for wvo/svo?  suspended water
vaporizing?

>From what I've read, there are many other variables
that need to be assessed, based on year and model,
that play a much more significant role in veg oil
functionality.  

I'm currently running wvo in a 2001 f-250. A
vegistroke system.  No problems have surfaced in the
first thousand miles, thou I wouldn't expect any for
at least several thousand.  

I was very unhappy when I found I couldn't get a
relatively new small diesel pick-up.  They don't exist
in the US because of EPA standards, but I think you
can pay tons of money and get one imported. 
However, since the purchase of this truck I have been
happy with my ability to transport significantly more
weight than I could with one of the little trucks.

17mpg btw.  better than or at least as good as most
suv's out there.  

Best, 
Tom

--- RONALD CASCIO <roncascio at verizon.net> wrote:

> Pre-PD TDI engines (2004) have proven themselves to
> perform well on quality 
> B100 (100% biodiesel). The newer generation PD TDIs,
> with their extremely 
> high pressure fuel injection systems, have yet to
> prove themselves in the 
> short time they have been available. My hat is off
> to anyone burning high 
> quality B100 in a PD TDI for breaking trail and
> being a guinea pig.
> 
> "Veggie diesel"? If by this you mean SVO (Straight
> Vegetable Oil) or WVO 
> (Waste Vegetable Oil) I'd personally say stay away
> from these forms of fuel 
> in any of the newer generation high pressure fuel
> injection engines, unless 
> you install a very expensive Elsbett conversion
> system. And still I'd not do 
> it. The older Mercedes Benzes run well on straight
> oil, as long as 
> everything is done just right.
> 
> But that's just my opinion.
> 
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason Holstine" <jason at amicusgreen.com>
> Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do
> you suggest?
> 
> 
> > So what's the word on the new TDI's ability to
> take biodiesel and veggie
> > diesel?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org
> > [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org]
> On Behalf Of Benjamin 
> > Pratt
> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:18 AM
> > To: RONALD CASCIO
> > Cc: greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org
> > Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car
> do you suggest?
> >
> >>  You might want to bring yourself up to speed on
> modern diesel
> >> technology Ben, and the difference between
> horsepower (gasoline) and
> > torque (diesel).
> >>
> >>  Ron
> >
> > The 2008 TDi is much more powerful and
> cleaner--but the gas mileage is far
> > worse than the older models. I was talking about
> 2003 vintage VW TDI, 
> > which
> > is slow (0-60 12.5 seconds), and dirty.
> >    The problem with the new jetta is that the
> mileage is, at best, 25%
> > better than gas cars of the same size and power,
> and you are paying 25% 
> > more
> > for fuel. Additionally, you pay around 2K more for
> a diesel model. If
> > volkwagen had used their new cleaner technology,
> and optimized mileage and
> > not power the car would make logical and
> economical sense.
> >   -Ben
> > PS  I do have some personal experience too. I used
> to commute with a guy 
> > who
> > drove a 2003 tdi beetle. It was slow, unreliable,
> slow starting in winter,
> > and had numerous problems which were expensive to
> fix. He got rid of it.
> >
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