[Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

Sat May 3 05:49:30 CDT 2008

Tom,

Suspended water could be a problem if present, could be the death nail to an 
injector pump. The problem with WVO/SVO in high pressure units is it's heavy 
viscosity, even when heated IMHO. I'm a fan of fueling a vehicle with 
something more similar to the fuel it was designed for, but hey... that's 
just me.

Please keep us up to speed on how your truck handles the unprocessed oils 
over the years/miles.

Want a small diesel pick-up? Check this out;

http://www.dieseltoyz.com/Home.html

Ron

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Lewis" <plea_4peace at yahoo.com>
To: "RONALD CASCIO" <roncascio at verizon.net>; "Jason Holstine" 
<jason at amicusgreen.com>
Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

> Ronald,
>
> I'm curious why you feel that high pressure fuel rails
> should be avoided for wvo/svo?  suspended water
> vaporizing?
>
> From what I've read, there are many other variables
> that need to be assessed, based on year and model,
> that play a much more significant role in veg oil
> functionality.
>
> I'm currently running wvo in a 2001 f-250. A
> vegistroke system.  No problems have surfaced in the
> first thousand miles, thou I wouldn't expect any for
> at least several thousand.
>
> I was very unhappy when I found I couldn't get a
> relatively new small diesel pick-up.  They don't exist
> in the US because of EPA standards, but I think you
> can pay tons of money and get one imported.
> However, since the purchase of this truck I have been
> happy with my ability to transport significantly more
> weight than I could with one of the little trucks.
>
> 17mpg btw.  better than or at least as good as most
> suv's out there.
>
> Best,
> Tom
>
>
>
> --- RONALD CASCIO <roncascio at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Pre-PD TDI engines (2004) have proven themselves to
>> perform well on quality
>> B100 (100% biodiesel). The newer generation PD TDIs,
>> with their extremely
>> high pressure fuel injection systems, have yet to
>> prove themselves in the
>> short time they have been available. My hat is off
>> to anyone burning high
>> quality B100 in a PD TDI for breaking trail and
>> being a guinea pig.
>>
>> "Veggie diesel"? If by this you mean SVO (Straight
>> Vegetable Oil) or WVO
>> (Waste Vegetable Oil) I'd personally say stay away
>> from these forms of fuel
>> in any of the newer generation high pressure fuel
>> injection engines, unless
>> you install a very expensive Elsbett conversion
>> system. And still I'd not do
>> it. The older Mercedes Benzes run well on straight
>> oil, as long as
>> everything is done just right.
>>
>> But that's just my opinion.
>>
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jason Holstine" <jason at amicusgreen.com>
>> Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do
>> you suggest?
>>
>>
>> > So what's the word on the new TDI's ability to
>> take biodiesel and veggie
>> > diesel?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org
>> > [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org]
>> On Behalf Of Benjamin
>> > Pratt
>> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:18 AM
>> > To: RONALD CASCIO
>> > Cc: greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car
>> do you suggest?
>> >
>> >>  You might want to bring yourself up to speed on
>> modern diesel
>> >> technology Ben, and the difference between
>> horsepower (gasoline) and
>> > torque (diesel).
>> >>
>> >>  Ron
>> >
>> > The 2008 TDi is much more powerful and
>> cleaner--but the gas mileage is far
>> > worse than the older models. I was talking about
>> 2003 vintage VW TDI,
>> > which
>> > is slow (0-60 12.5 seconds), and dirty.
>> >    The problem with the new jetta is that the
>> mileage is, at best, 25%
>> > better than gas cars of the same size and power,
>> and you are paying 25%
>> > more
>> > for fuel. Additionally, you pay around 2K more for
>> a diesel model. If
>> > volkwagen had used their new cleaner technology,
>> and optimized mileage and
>> > not power the car would make logical and
>> economical sense.
>> >   -Ben
>> > PS  I do have some personal experience too. I used
>> to commute with a guy
>> > who
>> > drove a 2003 tdi beetle. It was slow, unreliable,
>> slow starting in winter,
>> > and had numerous problems which were expensive to
>> fix. He got rid of it.
>> >
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