[Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

Mon May 5 18:40:23 CDT 2008

Think what you wish Scott, I'm well aware of the market in these rare highy 
sought after vehicles.

Ron

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Wangler" <Scott at Geis-Companies.com>
To: "RONALD CASCIO" <roncascio at verizon.net>; "Benjamin Pratt" 
<prattb at uwstout.edu>
Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

Just checked found two, one with crazy miles (248,000) and one with an
expected 122,000. The one with the regular miles had an asking price of
$8950. They may be pulling more money than what Kelly Blue Book says but
I still think the prices you threw around were a little inflated.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of RONALD
CASCIO
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:29 PM
To: Scott Wangler; Benjamin Pratt
Cc: greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

Hey Scott,

Unfortunately for those looking to buy one, and fortunately for folks
like myself who like to see the value of their cars stay high... you can
throw out the Blue Book on any TDI, especially a B4V ('96 diesel Passat
wagon).
Like anything in our market based economy, the value of something is set
on a price the buyer and seller can agree on. I'm not saying that
someone doesn't occasionally "steal" a B4V from someone who doesn't know
what they have, but it's a rare occasion.

I just recently saw one listed for $19K in the PNW, and it'll sell for
somewhere near that eventually. Go ahead and search for one on E-Bay or
AutoTrader and see what the real world market is valuing them at... if
you can find one of  these rare, well sought after vehicles at all. I
wouldn't even consider letting either of mine go for less than $10K.

You might not want to quit your daytime job in hopes of making a living
off of selling these as you suggested, there are just not that many
around to make a killing full time.

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Wangler" <Scott at Geis-Companies.com>
To: "RONALD CASCIO" <roncascio at verizon.net>; "Benjamin Pratt"
<prattb at uwstout.edu>
Cc: <greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

1996 Passat TDI wagon retail value excellent condition assumed mileage
of 120,000 = $5875. Not the $12, $10 or even $8 thousand you suggest.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=1996&VehicleCl
ass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=50&Condition=Excellent&ModelId=309&PriceType=
Retail&VehicleId=9849&Mileage=120000&SelectionHistory=9849%7C25436%7C442
73%7C0%7C0%7C

This price is for my zip code, it is possible that where you live these
cars command a much higher price. If that's the case I should probably
quit my job and commit my time to buying every Passat TDI I can find and
shipping it to your location.

-----Original Message-----
From: greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at listserv.repp.org] On Behalf Of RONALD
CASCIO
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:10 PM
To: Benjamin Pratt
Cc: greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Pratt" <prattb at uwstout.edu>
To: "RONALD CASCIO" <roncascio at verizon.net>
Cc: "Norbert Senf" <mheat at mha-net.org>;
<greenbuilding at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Off Topic: What car do you suggest?

... I looked at consumer reports, and the VW TDI was listed
> under "worst used cars". Their recommendations are based on surveys of
> owners (I don't know the number of owners offhand,, but I am certain
> it is a larger group than either one of us know). >
> -Ben
>
>
I personally am in communication with hundreds of VW TDI owners, and the

overwhelming majority have owned only TDIs over and over again.

How's this for a "Worst Used Car"? Our 1996 Passat TDI wagon sold new
for
$19K. I was happy to pay $12K for it in 2001. I could sell it today for
$10-$12K, and you'd be lucky to find one in reasonable shape for $8K
(close
to half the original sale price at 12 years old). Kindly show me another

used car that holds that kind of value. I'd say that resale value speaks

volumes for the quality a car can maintain over it's lifetime.

Ron

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