[Greenbuilding] Whole-house electricity use display

Reuben Deumling 9watts at gmail.com
Fri May 16 12:01:51 CDT 2008


there was a time when coin operated gas (and even electricity) meters were
common. In Britain I am told such meters still exist in exceptional cases.
See <http://www.dmsltd.com/Coin_Operated_Gas_Meter/113>

Reuben Deumling

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Gary HARLAN <Gary.HARLAN at eweb.eugene.or.us>
wrote:

> Want to see residential customers conserve electricity?
> Have utilities use pay as you go metering. A dash board type display that
> shows energy purchased, energy remaining, and how quickly the energy is
> being consumed. Good ol cause and effect. I am unaware of any meter like
> this. Heck, utilities could even start selling energy gift cards.
>
> >>> "Reuben Deumling" <9watts at gmail.com> 05/16/2008 8:22 AM >>>
> The blueline power cost monitor wouldn't serve the purpose you're asking
> about because it clamps onto the meter itself. As for the TED, I'm not
> sure.
> Here's the 'how to install' diagram: <
> http://www.theenergydetective.com/what/install.html>. I could imagine
> hooking two or more of these up and clamping them to individual
> circuits--maybe? Someone more familiar with how the electrical panels on MF
> houses are set up should chime in.
> That is an intriguing idea.
>
> Reuben Deumling
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Alan Abrams <alan at abramsdesignbuild.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jason--
> >
> > would either of these systems be appropriate for retrofitting a
> multifamily
> > building that is not submetered?  in simple terms, can these systems be
> > installed without significant intrusion (in small breaker boxes typically
> > located in kitchens), and in a reasonably tamper-proof manner, to be used
> > to
> > bill occupants individually for electrical usage?
> >
> > AA
> >
> >
> > We are working on carrying 2 versions:
> >
> > 1. The Blue Line Power Cost Monitor--an easier self-install version that
> > picks up a RF signal from the meter.
> > 2. The Energy Detective--ties into the electric panel, so requires a few
> > minutes of electrician's work (or a DIY comfortable with electricity). Is
> > said to be a little more accurate. They also have software to dump the
> data
> > into a database for historical measurement.
> >
> > Both have a wireless desktop display monitor for readings.  The problem
> is
> > both are small tech-oriented companies and seem to be having real
> problems
> > meeting demand and customer service.
> >
> > Jason Holstine
> > Amicus Green Building Center
> > e: jason at amicusgreen.com
> > www.amicusgreen.com
> >
> >
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