[Greenbuilding] coin-operated gas meters, was: Whole-house electricity use display

[Reuben Deumling]

Here's another fun link to coin operated gas meter history
*http://tinyurl.com/ycurgq*

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> there was a time when coin operated gas (and even electricity) meters were
> common. In Britain I am told such meters still exist in exceptional cases.
> See <http://www.dmsltd.com/Coin_Operated_Gas_Meter/113>
>
> Reuben Deumling
>
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Gary HARLAN <
> Gary.HARLAN at eweb.eugene.or.us> wrote:
>
>> Want to see residential customers conserve electricity?
>> Have utilities use pay as you go metering. A dash board type display that
>> shows energy purchased, energy remaining, and how quickly the energy is
>> being consumed. Good ol cause and effect. I am unaware of any meter like
>> this. Heck, utilities could even start selling energy gift cards.
>>
>> >>> "Reuben Deumling" <9watts at gmail.com> 05/16/2008 8:22 AM >>>
>> The blueline power cost monitor wouldn't serve the purpose you're asking
>> about because it clamps onto the meter itself. As for the TED, I'm not
>> sure.
>> Here's the 'how to install' diagram: <
>> http://www.theenergydetective.com/what/install.html>. I could imagine
>> hooking two or more of these up and clamping them to individual
>> circuits--maybe? Someone more familiar with how the electrical panels on
>> MF
>> houses are set up should chime in.
>> That is an intriguing idea.
>>
>> Reuben Deumling
>>
>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Alan Abrams <alan at abramsdesignbuild.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Jason--
>> >
>> > would either of these systems be appropriate for retrofitting a
>> multifamily
>> > building that is not submetered?  in simple terms, can these systems be
>> > installed without significant intrusion (in small breaker boxes
>> typically
>> > located in kitchens), and in a reasonably tamper-proof manner, to be
>> used
>> > to
>> > bill occupants individually for electrical usage?
>> >
>> > AA
>> >
>> >
>> > We are working on carrying 2 versions:
>> >
>> > 1. The Blue Line Power Cost Monitor--an easier self-install version that
>> > picks up a RF signal from the meter.
>> > 2. The Energy Detective--ties into the electric panel, so requires a few
>> > minutes of electrician's work (or a DIY comfortable with electricity).
>> Is
>> > said to be a little more accurate. They also have software to dump the
>> data
>> > into a database for historical measurement.
>> >
>> > Both have a wireless desktop display monitor for readings.  The problem
>> is
>> > both are small tech-oriented companies and seem to be having real
>> problems
>> > meeting demand and customer service.
>> >
>> > Jason Holstine
>> > Amicus Green Building Center
>> > e: jason at amicusgreen.com
>> > www.amicusgreen.com
>> >
>> >
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