[Stoves] Cane coal in Haiti : CNN

Tom Miles tmiles at trmiles.com
Fri Aug 4 14:46:35 CDT 2006


 
Richard,

You'll find additional links to Amy Smith's work and the D-Lab at MIT at
http://www.bioenergylists.org/ It looks like a student project with her as
the instructor. Her project has certainly gotten a lot of press. She uses a
barrel grinder that looks like Jeff's fireball maker. 

Crispin's question about whether the stove is suitable for the fuel is
important, expecially with "unholey" briquettes. 

TWP and Aprovecho have been in Haiti working with the Ananda Marga Universal
Relief Team
http://bioenergylists.org/en/twpamurt

I wonder if Stuart, Jeremy or Larry can tell us if they have come across any
briquetting projects including the D-Lab cane coal.

Tom 

 


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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Cane coal in Haiti : CNN

Dear all,
I don' know if the briquettes which Amy and company are talking about are of
our original hollow core design or another shape altogether. We set up
hollow core briquetting in Haiti in 2001. They were using leaves straws rice
husks, charcoal fines,  bagass--and some paper (the latter was not sought
as, while it is very easy to make for the beginner,  it indeed will never
burn as well as any number of agro residue blends.

I heard throu the briquette grapevine, that a group of missionaries took on
briquetting on their own with no apparent interaction with the actual
practitioners  and they burned out a few years later. Still others whom we
had never heard of came out of the woodwork with reports of using the tech
for several years and they were quite happy with it. 
All I do know is that a good hollow core briquette works very well if you
know what you are doing. It is a smokey mess if you do not.

No matter whose briquette it was, the quality of reportage is lacking abit,
in depth:  the story is far from compete. Crispin points out that the stove
they used was not correct for his brick briquette. We do not know what kind
of process was used and where they learned it.  Now could you Amy, kindly
give us some details?

Richard Stanley

On Aug 4, , at 7:30 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:

>
>
> Dear Friends
>
>
>
>> Impoverished Haiti has sugar to burn
>> Engineers: Cane charcoal could help solve cooking fuel problems
>
>
> It seems the stoves used (if any) to burn the paper briquettes were 
> not suited to the fuel.  If I put alcohol gel in a coal stove I would 
> get results of a similar nature.
>
>
>
> Apolinario in Maputo is doing a pretty good job of combining charcoal 
> dust and bits into a paper bound briquette that is selling well in the 
> face of an LPG shortage.  There is no well suited stove for that 
> either but it sounds better than soggy paper in Haiti.
>
>
>
> Use paper as a cheap binder.  End of short story.  Of course you have 
> to dry it....
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Crispin
>
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