[Stoves] Designs

Sat Aug 5 11:57:21 CDT 2006

Ian,

Related topics are welcome. We have discussed various heat applications
here. Several of us have designed furnaces for space or proces heating, food
and grain drying and smoking. 

Once our archives are back up you can search for heat topics. In the
meantime you can start a heat related thread.

You'll find a couple of heat and drying applications on the Bioenergy List
website. Go to www.bioenergylists.org. 

Find the Category Browser link in the Menu. That will bring up:
http://bioenergylists.org/en/taxonomy_browser

Select the topics you are interested in. For example, "Applications"->
"Heat" "Dryer"

Select "Scope"->"Items containing any terms"

You'll get: http://bioenergylists.org/en/taxonomy/term/377+72?

Currently included are: a boiler idea, a rice husk paddy furnace, a wood
fired cacao bean dryer, Aprovecho's thoughts on designing a wood heating
stove, and burning manure and plastic for heat in Armenia. There are others
on our old website that haven't been migrated but should be acessible via
the web.

Just another service of your friendly local email list which is funded in
part by a generous donation from Bruce Stahlberg, Affordable Energy
Solutions (AES), MN. Many thanks to Bruce for helping us present information
for discussion and exchange.

Kind regards,

Tom Miles

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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Designs

Dear Ian and Steve and all,

Please discuss the heating applications of stoves for developing societies
HERE, not on another Listserve.  The combustion issues are about the same,
and we have discussed some heating issues already, and I will help keep the
discussion going here.

I just got back from the ARECOP workshop on Thermal application of gasifiers
for cottage industry in developing countries.  I will be presenting several
reports that each merits a separate thread of discussion.

I will make the second one be specifically about heating/thermal usage
issues.

The first one is about the conference itself.

And the third one will be about gasifier combustion technologies seen and
discussed at the workshop.

Paul
--
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Telephone:  USA-309-452-7072 (residence and office) Internet site:
www.ilstu.edu/~psanders For my gasifier stoves info, go to:
http://bioenergylists.org/contributors#Paul_Anderson

Quoting IanVB <vincent at igrin.co.nz>:

> Hi everyone..
>
> I also have an application for heating, rather than cooking and am
watching
> the designs that are talked about on this list with great interest. Seems,
> like Steve, I too have a background in electronics.
>
> Also my application is in the developing world and is targeted toward
> preservation of the environment here. It involves heating for a kiln drier
> for Kava production.
>
> What I would like to ask is if anyone knows of another mailing list that
> discusses applications for such designs as the rocket stove for others,
for
> uses other than cooking.??
>
> Maybe we could start one?
>
> Ian Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:32:23 -0700, Tom Miles wrote:
>>
>> >I don't know a shopping mall for heating stoves.
>>
>> Tom, Steve is looking for some plans for a DIY stove, something along
>> the lines of dimensioned drawings published under a general public
>> license for own use.
>> >
>> >This discussion list is devoted to cooking stoves for developing
countries.
>> >See http://bioenergylists.org/en/stoves
>>
>> And as we have seen before there is scope for a lot of cross
>> fertilisation of ideas from first world industrial and camping burners
>> to be applied for the benefit of cooking in developing countries.
>>
>> I know of Steve from another forum where we have a joint interest,
>> though we haven't met, I know he is a talented engineer with good
>> electronic knowledge.
>>
>> Steve, in principle there's not a lot more to a radiant heater than a
>> cook pot stove, just replace the cookpot with a radiant flue pipe that
>> will discharge the flue products out of harm's way. It has often been
>> pointed out in the past that the flue gas from a wood burner is so
>> acrid inhaling it is unlikely to go unnoticed. Make that woodburner
>> visually clean burning and smell free and there can be a hidden danger
>> of CO poisoning.
>>
>> >From my experience of wood burning in UK I'd say that you need more
>> sophisticated design to allow for the fact that the available wood is
>> often going to be far from dry. This will dictate how the fire can be
>> lit and cleanly sustained. It makes a Top lit Updraught stove
>> impractical without fan assistance. Top lighting seems to be the
>> quickest method to achieve clean burning from start up but this leads
>> to problems with re stoking, so duration of burn needs thinking about.
>>
>> AJH
>>
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