[Stoves] Cane coal in Haiti : CNN

[Richard Stanley]

Tom,
Our contacts are Concern universal, with whom we introduced the  
technology, indirectly, with Fondation Wynne pour l'Environnement  
(FWE)  which been involved with the dissemination and transmission   
of the technology of briquette production in the area of Kenscoff   and  
Petion-Ville for many years and has worked with over five hundred  
persons from students to members of grassroots  organizations. 
And again with Actionell Fleurisma, a more technical group . Finally we  
have worked with the Haiti project of the  Engineers without borders  
based in UC Boulder They continue with local Bq production  in Boulder  
. Finally Concern Universal's Dr. Keith Flannagan trained several local  
officials and a Peace corpsman teacher who introduced it in a few local  
schools.

I guess its why this undocumented and half complete  story of Amy  
Smith, as at least reported by CNN, is a bit confusing and irksome.

We can add charcoal dust (25% of the physical part of charcoal making  
is wasted in the process ) and create full on charcoal performance but  
few have to resort to charcoal use IF THEY are trained by others in  
their own area.

Richard


On Aug 4, , at 12:46 PM, Tom Miles wrote:

>
> Richard,
>
> You'll find additional links to Amy Smith's work and the D-Lab at MIT  
> at
> http://www.bioenergylists.org/ It looks like a student project with  
> her as
> the instructor. Her project has certainly gotten a lot of press. She  
> uses a
> barrel grinder that looks like Jeff's fireball maker.
>
> Crispin's question about whether the stove is suitable for the fuel is
> important, expecially with "unholey" briquettes.
>
> TWP and Aprovecho have been in Haiti working with the Ananda Marga  
> Universal
> Relief Team
> http://bioenergylists.org/en/twpamurt
>
> I wonder if Stuart, Jeremy or Larry can tell us if they have come  
> across any
> briquetting projects including the D-Lab cane coal.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Cane coal in Haiti : CNN
>
> Dear all,
> I don' know if the briquettes which Amy and company are talking about  
> are of
> our original hollow core design or another shape altogether. We set up
> hollow core briquetting in Haiti in 2001. They were using leaves  
> straws rice
> husks, charcoal fines,  bagass--and some paper (the latter was not  
> sought
> as, while it is very easy to make for the beginner,  it indeed will  
> never
> burn as well as any number of agro residue blends.
>
> I heard throu the briquette grapevine, that a group of missionaries  
> took on
> briquetting on their own with no apparent interaction with the actual
> practitioners  and they burned out a few years later. Still others  
> whom we
> had never heard of came out of the woodwork with reports of using the  
> tech
> for several years and they were quite happy with it.
> All I do know is that a good hollow core briquette works very well if  
> you
> know what you are doing. It is a smokey mess if you do not.
>
> No matter whose briquette it was, the quality of reportage is lacking  
> abit,
> in depth:  the story is far from compete. Crispin points out that the  
> stove
> they used was not correct for his brick briquette. We do not know what  
> kind
> of process was used and where they learned it.  Now could you Amy,  
> kindly
> give us some details?
>
> Richard Stanley
>
> On Aug 4, , at 7:30 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>>
>>
>>> Impoverished Haiti has sugar to burn
>>> Engineers: Cane charcoal could help solve cooking fuel problems
>>
>>
>> It seems the stoves used (if any) to burn the paper briquettes were
>> not suited to the fuel.  If I put alcohol gel in a coal stove I would
>> get results of a similar nature.
>>
>>
>>
>> Apolinario in Maputo is doing a pretty good job of combining charcoal
>> dust and bits into a paper bound briquette that is selling well in the
>> face of an LPG shortage.  There is no well suited stove for that
>> either but it sounds better than soggy paper in Haiti.
>>
>>
>>
>> Use paper as a cheap binder.  End of short story.  Of course you have
>> to dry it....
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Crispin
>>
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