[Stoves] Using a differential windlass as motive power for stove
drew
drew at artforging.com
Sat Dec 9 13:01:48 CST 2006
I don't see that we need to turn this into an either or scenario,
electric fans, chimneys, and other solutions probably all will fill
different needs, and so all should be discussed and *dispassionately*
evaluated. In my earlier posts I attempted to point out that battery
powered fan driven stoves in some circumstances *might* cause more
trouble than they might solve. In doing so I am grinding an old anti
high tech axe of mine. To be clear I believe that there are going to
be many circumstances where electric driven air pump systems will be the
best solution.
In a permanent or semi permanent installation where space and material
are available a chimney seems like the best solution, from a thermo
dynamic standpoint a good chimney would be the most efficent using low
grade waste heat to pump the air needed (Kyles experiences with poor
functioning systems aside). However as Kyle points out most of these
stoves are going to be moved regularly, and there many not be structures
nearby to attach chimneys too. In that case a fan or air pump of some
sort may be the best solution. Electricity is a simple solution, and
using it allows developers to have variable flow and variable pressure
to easily test different configurations and fuels. Once an optimal
stove configuration is found (like the T-LUD), and it's air volume and
pressure drop established then it seems that producing them as developed
is a great start. I would think that at that time people should start
looking for other solutions to the air pump. That seems like where we
are today.
So a simple electric fan alternative that might be explored is a fan
based on a differential windlass. Differential windlass systems were
often the motive force behind grandfather clocks (taking the high torque
low rpm energy from a slowly dropping weight and turning it into a high
rpm low torque) . These winches are very simple to make, and I
suspect very efficient (as I can't see where the energy would be lost,
other than in compressing the string as it is wrapped), much more so
than using the same weight of falling water to power a turbine, and the
fan could be the load that keeps the thing from freewheeling, so no
speed regulator required. The falling weight could be varied to
change speed, and a small second weight could be used to reset the
system, spinning the drum while the operator lifts the motive power
weight. If I recall correctly there is a neat and simple system
inside grandfather clocks exactly for this. Has anybody done any
tests to see what kind of static pressure is being overcome?
Here is a link to an image of the winch, To use this as a fan,
replace the handle with a fan blade.
http://www.answers.com/topic/differential-windlass
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