[Stoves] genealogy of stoves

Boll, Martin Dr. boll.bn at t-online.de
Thu Jun 8 17:49:42 CDT 2006


Dear Jeff,

Dear Tom,

And all,

Interested in stove history and stove development

 

Jeff, I like how you are thinking about inventions and new ideas in your
last posting.

The time before I was subscribed to the stoves list, I read a lot in the
stoves-list. I remember, there was a discussion about inventing, patents and
publishing for everybody's use for nothing. On the other hand I thought of a
remark made about the first thoughts about top lighting of a stove/gasifier,
which came down to the construction of Tom Reeds forced air Camping-stove
and Paul Andersons T-lud stoves.

 

And last but not least, my admiration of our ancestors who, un-told and
un-patented gave us their invention, art and use of fire.

- I thought about, what the big companies would say if they had to pay for
every use of a knob, they make early in the morning on their shoes, as
stroke against patenting living beings (they think, their company had made
it itself)-

 

You made me thinking of a very simple but useful thing.

 

Especially I ask Tom Miles about:

 

I would enjoy when we would built up a genealogy of the different stoves.
That includes:

 

First: the idea which was said to get brains into work, possibly with the
contrary remarks which were made about that, before stove-construction.

 

Second: the first experimental attempts and history how the different stoves
came to their typical construction, and how they where changed, to
ameliorate or to fit special demands of that type of stove.

Interesting for this is not only the name of the
thinker/inventor/constructor, but as well where the
idea/invention/construction was made. So it will be far easier to get an
access to these historical facts than only by naming the persons.

Additional, a simultaneous genealogy, describing the development of coming
out of different needs would be helpful to get an access. The needs which
tended, to create a special type of stove.

(e.g. the difference in  easy to get fuel - wood-logs, wood-sticks,
crop-waste, etc.)

Making such a genealogy within the community, hearing all the meanings, it
would be a great source of creating new ideas or change old ideas, which
were already made, and could lead to new unexpected results.

.

When I am right, there are many participants within the list, which do not
intend at al,l or at least not in first place, to get a patent, but they
would like or intend or insist, to be called the initiator or first builder
of a new stove idea.

This genealogy, I think, would make some later discussions unnecessary;
though, I am aware, in the beginning there will be discussion, when
"stove-history" will be reported and written.

In every case, we would make us aware the context, where we are standing in
our thoughts about stoves and building stoves. Everybody will get his
important point and see his interests and ideas within the whole context.
And so everyone can be proud of his "brick" within the building, as well he
can see his relatively "unimportance" in respect to the whole "building".

 

I want to give a little prick, to begin from the beginning.

In advance I want to tell you a German saying, translated into English: "A
drop of oil is half a locksmith assistant".

In the same meaning of this I say: reloading the wood under the glow is half
the perfect burn.

And I assume: Putting a log under the glow, was the first
"top-lit-wood-gasifier", made possibly in stone-age.

-I hope to make you more smile with that than angry.

 

At least I have a request, especially necessary for me and others not native
English speakers: When you write an abbreviation in your postings, please,
the first time you use it, write the whole name after the abbreviation once
in brackets.

 

Best regards

 

Martin

 

 

 

 




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