[Stoves] Re: Improving longevity of steel stoves; Chiwicla-lining

jason marshall jdmarshall at gmail.com
Tue May 9 12:37:54 CDT 2006


Hilbertz has a reputation for being difficult to get ahold of.

I was a member of a group some years back that was interested in
growing seacrete.  I suspect his intentions overlapped theirs (and
given that bio, I'm now certain of it), and they never got a
satisfactory dialog going with him.

All I recall now is that a couple of the critical elements were 1)
having costal access for experimentation, 2) maintaining constant
current, not voltage, and 3) maintaining circulation even as the pores
begin to close. 4) lots of patience

If you want to build up any sort of a 3 dimensional structure, it may
be tricky preventing large voids from forming in the structure, since
it's going to grow outward from the wires, and the wires conduct much
more freely than the calcium does.  In all likelihood, you probably
have to build up a layer, shape it, and apply a second layer of wire
to the surface, lather rinse repeat.


On 5/9/06, Harmon Seaver <hseaver at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/8/06, William Carr <jkirk3279 at beanstalk.net> wrote:
> >
> > On May 7, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
> >
> > > This revives an old conversation with several inputs from William
> > > Carr.  It
> > > was about improving the longevity of metal by various means and of
> > > course it
> > > drifted to ceramic liners and how to make them stronger.
> >
> > I have been learning about Electrolytic Rust Removal lately.
> >
> > You hook up a rusty part you want to clean to a negative lead from a
> > trickle charger, and immerse in a solution of baking soda and water.
> >
> > The positive lead goes to a sacrificial piece of metal and that also
> > sits in the solution.
> >
> >
>     Ah, this reminds me of another thing -- is anyone here familiar
> with the concept of creating "artificial coral" using hardware cloth
> or chicken wire placed in sea water and fed an electric current? I
> used to have a link to a research lab, I think at the Univ. of Texas,
> that was working with this. They were building sea walls every bit as
> strong or stronger than cement, bridge pilings, and also repairing
> bridges, etc, with it.
>    I wonder how well that would work for building stoves?
>
>     Okay, just found some links for that.
>
> http://www.globalcoral.org/Biography%20Prof.%20Wolf%20H.%20Hilbertz.htm
> http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blhilbertz.htm
> --
> Harmon Seaver
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