[Stoves] Re Alexis Belonio article

[Kevin Chisholm]

Dear Crispin

A fundamental Law of Science is that one cannot get something for 
nothing. The best that a competent Scientist like Foxworth can do is 
bring us closer to break even. Someone like Meyers, who brags about his 
lack of credentials and who claims to be able to get something for 
nothing is a fraud.

The problems with the lack of electrolysis efficiency seem to be well 
known. I understand that the major part of the inefficiency results from 
a hydrogen overvoltage effect. Quite possibly someone could discover a 
mechanism that reduces the consequences of the hydrogen overvoltage. The 
best that one could hope for is to approach 100% efficiency. Claims or 
inferences of having "Over Unity Machines" destroy the credibility of 
the presenter.

Best wishes,

Kevin

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
> Dear Friends of Science
> 
>>> Meyers was proven to be one of the biggest scam artists on the planet.
>>> Please do not be taken in by any of his work.
> 
>> Now, now, Meyers has many contenders for this "honor", with people
>> like Daniel Dingel who claimed to be a NASA engineer but didn't know
>> what an explosion was.
> 
> Well, I have read a few patents on the issue of bombarding water with radio 
> waves at particular frequencies and noting there is an increase in the 
> efficiency of electrolysis.  Someone by the name of Garth 
> Whitworth-Williams-Foxcroft (which makes my name look short) who you are 
> very unlikely to have heard of but whose inventions you use every day was 
> working on this technology recently for his electric powered hydrogen 
> engine.  His single cylinder engine is working fine and makes no claims for 
> 100%+ efficiencies.  It is just that a 135 hp hydrogen fueled internal 
> combustion engine is far lighter than a 135 hp electric motor.  Therefore it 
> is more efficient to manufacture hydrogen on board (from stored electric 
> power) than to haul around a huge motor.  Garth's engine is so small he can 
> carry it around with his own two hands and he is over 90 years old.  Garth 
> invented the viable zinc-air battery and photo-setting polymers, the 
> air-to-air missle and dozens of other things.
> 
> The interesting thing relevant to our conversation is that he reported 
> inconsistent but real increases of between 2 and 6 fold when using radio 
> waves in combination with electrolysis but that the effect was virtually 
> random.  As far as I know he was not able to get to the bottom of why.  For 
> sure the reason is a quatum effect.
> 
> All this answers not the question of whether there is any decomposition of 
> water in a stove fire at realistic temperatures, on the presence of various 
> species of carbon particles.
> 
> Thanks
> Crispin 
> 
> 
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