[Stoves] Re Alexis Belonio article

[Dean Still]

Dear Kevin,

Maybe one day when we are less busy...

In my opinion, I think that the result would be about the same, especially
if the jets of air or steam added to the velocity of the hot flue gases
contacting the pot. Both air jets and steam jets usually cool the fire, I
think. 

Best,

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Chisholm [mailto:kchisholm at ca.inter.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:13 PM
To: dstill at epud.net
Cc: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Re Alexis Belonio article

Dear Dean

dstill at epud.net wrote:
> Dear Kevin,
> 
> We have tested a Chinese stove that uses steam injected into the
combustion
> chamber. The jets of steam create superior mixing which results in cleaner
> burning. It may be that the steam also makes hydrogen but I think that
this is a
> side issue. It's the improved mixing without using electricity that seems
to me
> to be the important result.

Very interesting!! Would you be able to configure a test where you used 
a jet of air and then a jet of steam for inducing turbulence, to see if 
the steam had any extra benefit?

Best wishes,

Kevin
> 
> All Best,
> 
> Dean
> 
> uoting Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>:
> 
>> Dear Crispin
>>
>> Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>>> Dear Kevin
>>>
>>> That is what separates frauds from people like Garth to are actually
>> doing 
>>> it properly.  What I found interesting was a consistent 'effect'
>> reported by 
>>> people for generating increased efficiency in hydrogen production.
>> Certainly, this is what good Science is all about... "doing the 
>> do-able". Good Science does not claim to have done the impossible.
>>> Garth is splitting the water electrically inside the engine, that's
>> all. 
>>> Now we have a general claim to be splitting water in a hot fire.  Is
>> that 
>>> real?
>> Certainly, splitting water in a hot fire, in the presence of carbon, is
>>
>> real!! However, I do not know if the temperature of a "hot fire" would,
>>
>> or would not, be sufficient to dissociate 2H2O into 2H2 and O2.
>>
>> I suspect that water reduction, or water dissociation, could have a 
>> positive effect on biomass combustion processes, by permitting the 
>> formation of intermediate compounds that would burn better, or more 
>> completely.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Kevin
>>> Thanks
>>> Crispin 
>>>
>>>
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