[Stoves] Request for help choosing the right wood stove

[adkarve]

Dear Peter,
you are absolutely right about decentralized manufacture. Thanks also for
your offer to act as our agent in Belize. We have recently started a
business named Samuchit Enviro-Tech P.Ltd. I have copied this to the C.E.O.
of Samuchit.
Yours
A.D.Karve
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Singfield <snkm at btl.net>
To: <stoves at listserv.repp.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Request for help choosing the right wood stove


> At 04:43 PM 4/10/2007 +0530, adkarve wrote:
> >- I have successfully tested a prototype of TLUD type of charcoaling unit
> >meant for an urban householder plagued by the problem of disposing off
leaf
> >litter. When mass produced, its cost in India would be about US$70.  I am
> >however afraid, that like our SARAI cooker, the cost of transporting it
to a
> >foreign country would be disproportionately higher than the cost of the
item
> >itself. Perhaps we may offer the engineering drawings at a price.
> >- Yours
> >- A.D.Karve
>
> Dear A.D.
>
> Centralization may well soon become part of a past system of existence.
>
> Diversification is the answer.
>
> "Distribution" will soon be the new curse.
>
> What India needs to do is start diversifying it's products by
manufacturing
> some of them off shore.
>
> Here in Belize we have seen a great influx of people from India -- that
> have become in but a few short years -- major merchants.
>
> I can think of at least three -- right away -- that could easily invest
> $100,000 US into starting any kind of stove venture. If you could show
them
> why.
>
> Belize has a very well developed sheet metal fabrication infrastructure --
> already in place -- in our numerous Mennonite colonies.
>
> I am sure similar situations as exist here can be also found in other
latin
> American Countries.
>
> Might you not consider working with some of these honorable Indian
> Merchants and thus keep a better control over it all??
>
> This is how America did things in the past.
>
> If India is to evolve into a modern industrialized center -- might it not
> be valuable to emulate some of the better devices innovated by America in
> it's past glory times??
>
> The largest stainless steel sheet metal works -- and zinc galvanized
> roofing material works -- in Belize -- was started but 6 years ago -- not
> far from where I live -- by some Chinese immigrants.
>
> So between India "investors" and Chinese manufacturing -- you can safely
> duplicate what you are presently achieving in India.
>
> I am no longer so sure Capitalism as practiced by modern major american
> corps can work to improve global living standards -- but I still have
faith
> in the Free Enterprise system.
>
> Do not emulate Modern America -- Major corporation based capitalism -- do
> Emulate old American free enterprise.
>
> Learn to diversify around the planet in the same manner the original
Yankee
> Traders did -- back "when".
>
> I guess the confusion on how to diversify a new product that has great
> market potential is due to the major corporation and government grant
> "systems" --
>
> Between those two new waves -- Free Enterprise has almost drowned.
>
> But last I heard -- True Free enterprise is still alive********** her in
> Belize -- at least - - and easily implemented.
>
> Belize would be a small market -- but it borders huge populations in
Mexico
> and Guatemala.
>
> Guatemala and Mexico have not been so encouraging to immigrations from
> India or China as has been Belize.
>
> And last -- over the past few years I have become a licensed importer of
> goods from India and China and maintain a small -- but steady trade --
> averaging four containers per year. One from India -- Three from China.
>
> I now have people from both Mexico and Guatemala buying small amounts of
> farming equipments from me here in Belize.
>
> Bottom line -- sometimes thinking to big is self destructive -- sometime
> what you need stares you right in the face -- but for reasons -- can't
seem
> to be observed.
>
> Probably because such a terrific -- blinding -- light is emitted from the
> much larger -- powerful -- major corporations??
>
> Small can indeed be beautiful to --- especially in 3rd world.
>
> Start small -- maybe then is will grow big.
>
> >From a tiny Acorn grows the mighty oak.
>
> I probably could put you in Email communications with the Chine factory
and
> a few of the major Indian merchants here.
>
> I could also be your representative here --
>
> I can have my agents in India --
>
> LOVSON EXPORTS LTD.,
> 98,  Bajaj Bhavan,
> Nariman Point,
> Mumbai 400 021
> INDIA
>
> Tel:  91-22-22024071 / 22021918 (Ext.123)
> Fax: 91-22-66360830 /  22045488
>
> I supply this so as you can easily verify my situation.
>
> The sales agent at Lovson I work with is:
>
> Joanna Bhat
>
> E-mail  : joanna at lovson.com
>
> http://www.lovson.com
>
> She could arrange to ship a few of your products here for demonstration
> units to the potential India investors and the Chinese maker. I would pay
> your price and all shipping costs.
>
> We then might simply import larger number of pre made units to test the
> Market first before going into production runs.
>
> The Indian Merchants I have in mind already have trade houses in a very
> active international Free Zone on the Belize / Mexican border but 12 miles
> from where I type this.
>
> The important part is all of this can be done for so little in costs --
> there would be no need to go chasing after major grant or other money --
we
> just quietly "DO-IT"!!
>
> Just as I have already  -- very quietly -- established myself as a small
> import/export operation -- with all the same "rights" as any other major
> corporation would have.
>
> All by believing in Free Enterprise -- and doing it by ones self --
>
> Never borrowing and going in debt -- never selling out to any major
> corporation -- just planting and tending to one's own garden -- Free
> Enterprise -- contrary to all modern propaganda -- still lives -- still
> exists -- still prospers -- well -- at least here in Belize it does.
>
> India must learn to diversify -- as does China.
>
> Centralized manufacturing with global distribution through a major
> international corporation -- that might not be working well for much
longer.
>
>
>
> Peter / Belize
>
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