[Stoves] For the attn of Dr. Sanders - Please.: Ethanol Stoves.

psanders at ilstu.edu psanders at ilstu.edu
Wed Aug 29 10:33:57 EDT 2007


Dear Nickey,

Thanks for writing.  I am sending this reply (including your message 
but without
the picture you attached) to the Stove Listserv because you have so many
interesting topics:

mid-size gasifiers
ethanol stoves
vegetable oil atomizers
cutting torch with renewable gases

I hope that you will subscribe to that Listserv    see:    
bioenergylists.org   If others reply to this message, please change the 
Subject line and be sure to
send a copy to Nickey at his personal address until he is subscribed.

Your pressurized ethanol unit has similarities with the one by Anil R. 
and other
pressurized liquid-fuel stoves.  I hope your stove and Anil's are sent to the
UNDP project in Malawi for consideration for the project being considered
there.

I can confirm that 250 grams per hour of ethanol (about 4 gms per minute) is
about right for reasonable cooking power in an alcohol stove.  More is faster,
4 g/m is great, and 2 g per minute will not boil 5 liters without top.

Please tell me (us) more about the cookstove situation in Burma.  Especially
mention prospects for stove projects there, in your opinion.  I hope to hear
from you soon.  (I have not been to Burma.... not yet, but someday, I hope.)

Sincerely,
Paul

Paul S. Anderson   (I frequently get messages addressed to Dr. Sanders because
my email address is     psanders at ilstu.edu   The "s" is for my middle name.)

Quoting rnv impex <rnvimpex at gmail.com>:

> Sir,
>
> Was pleased to learn of you from the Stove Downloads on the net.
> May I now go onto Stoves:-
>
> I have been making Eth stoves for some time  and Selling them to the under
> privileged in Burma.There i have been involved also  in making Bio
> -Gasifiers that form 'Producer Gas' that is fed to fairly heavy duty Turbo
> Diesel Engines of around 800 Bhp that are coupled to 600 kva
> Alternators for power generation.We remove the Tar from the Producer gas by
> using Inexpensive
> available Mechanical and Chemical filters . The gas is purged of 95% of it's
> Tar contents - the
> figure is alright for use in IC Engs thereafter.
>
> The Eth stove is good and can be used both in the Pressurized and Gravity
> Fed modes.The
> Burner is good quality and does a great job at producing cooking purposes
> heat @ 2000 to
> 8000 kcals /hr. For Cooking 2000 kcals is enough.The one in this attachment
> I have sold in Burma is @US$ 15 /- pcs. The burner is a silent one and costs
> around US$ 5 /-pc.Fuel Con-
> sumption 250 gms/hr in the 2000 cals mode The frame is US $ 10/-  gravity
> mode is less.
> Am trying to bring down the price though, without compromising the safety
> angle.
>
> Am also on another project, to make Oxy -Ethanol / Gasoline Steel Cutting
> and welding Torches for Industrial use.We now have to make it at an
> affordable price so that it can be widely used in industry-. Less than US$
> 150 /pc is a good price.With Gasoline / Ethanol we could do
> away with Expensive Acetylene / Carbide / LPG etc. With Ethanol of course we
> get 30% less heat.
> However a Kg of Ethanol will have more heat than petrol ,but a Litre of it
> -Less.
>
> Would appreciate if I could help in any way. I have an Air Force Combat
> Fighter Bomber &
> Flying Instructors Background -and a Mech Engr.
>
> Have also made an Atomizer that can Atomise Even Jatropha Curcas Oil. I
> don't use Heat
> but 300 Watts/ 5 amps of electrical Energy thru a small 5kg machine to do
> the Job.In fact I
> could Atomise any Heavy Fossil / Vegetable oil to further use as a clean
> Heat source.
> Cost of Electrical machine US$ 250/- . A good second could cost half.
>
> More on hearing from you Sir.
>
> I'm from India and 63 yrs old ( In good shape so far ! )
>
> Nickey.( B.E (mech). A.M.I.E.: A.M.E.
>



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